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  1. Trump supporters are already trying to turn this into Cruz abandoning the 1st amendment because he pointed out that Trump had contributed to the environment.
    They’ve even managed to rope Glenn Reynolds and Powerline into some semi-denunciations of Cruz et. al.

    This is what you can expect 4 years (at least) of under president Trump.

  2. Interesting developments. Although some are saying that Trump invites the violent reactions, one thoughtful blogger implicated some unspecified opponent’s campaign. I am not sure how he came up with that.

    I do not accuse Trump, and certainly not his opponents. After all, if you claim to be a conservative, even with no evidence that you are, you will attract unwanted attention from the radicalized and aggrieved on the left.

    I do not think it overly cynical, however, to say that Trump will benefit from this sort of thing. He seems to benefit from every outrage, whether his, or others.

  3. Writes neo-neocon: “the protesters were leftist activists with an agenda to provoke violence from the Chicago police and the police obliged them”.

    Isn’t it interesting that now it appears the roles are in some manner reversed, in the sense that the actions of today’s protesters oblige Trump and his supporters far more than detract from them? Perhaps that is the otherwise unseen solution to the problem, though one of which it’s highly doubtful we’ll see any recognition on the part of the protesters: that the protesters see their own actions creating more of what they say they do not want rather than less, and therefore these protesters seize the opportunity to cease their self-defeating behaviors. Again, not bloody likely, while still staring them stark in the face.

  4. “What can be done against force, without force?” Roman statesman Cicero

    Increased security will prove insufficient. The Obama administration will do nothing to rein in its activists. Any state that uses its national guard, will find itself defending itself from federal prosecution. So too with local police, as Ferguson demonstrated.

    None of this is accidental, Chicago demonstrated cooperative organization, just as Ferguson did before. ‘Protesters’ will be paid and bused wherever needed. In November, expect to see much more voter intimidation. BLM activists will be out in force.

    The Left is not going to let criminality stop them from keeping control of the federal government.

    Half of America is enabling its destruction. Once our societal fabric collapses, then violence will settle the matter.

    None who value American liberties wish to see violence but since “the left will never give up, that’s for sure” and half of America will not cooperate with or tolerate a return to Constitutional governance, no other outcome is possible.

    The choice will be simple; fight or submit. We delay the fight because it signals the end of what we hold dear but eventually, fight we shall or find ourselves submitting.

    Enough Americans have and are throwing away their heritage. The proof of this is Obama’s recent 51% approval rating.

    How many people inclined to vote for either Hillary or Sanders see that, characterizing sincere disagreement as ‘hate speech’ will ultimately disenfranchise their own ‘consent’ and, that a failure to protest the shutting down of Trump’s “hate speech”, foretells their own coming servitude and enslavement?

    “It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.” –Voltaire

  5. Fascinating if true is that “several thousand” of the anti-Trumps were inside the hall, which holds about ten thousand. What a great neo-Nazi way to take control! So easy in this era of social media to mobilize the hordes.

    Trump cancelled a meet in Cincinnati today, apparently for the same reason.

    It may come down to the Brown Shirts vs. the Communists. It may indeed become necessary, because to be passive is to yield to the Communists. Some choice.

  6. These incidents will benefit Trump. The more crazed and lawless the authoritarian left becomes, the more Trump will be regarded as the savior to replace our current messiah.

  7. Parker…

    That’s my ‘take,’ too.

    Variations on this theme were used eighty years ago across Europe.

  8. Plainly Rubio and Kasich are more determined to stop Cruz than Trump.

    What’s THAT tell you ?

  9. I also think that Trump is well aware of the dynamic, and it’s just fine with him because it benefits him. That is why he’s been stirring up talk recently of beating up protesters and carrying them out on stretchers.

  10. While it took a lot longer than I expected, we’re finally reaching the point of becoming a third world “democracy”.

    I was really expecting stuff like this to happen by 2006 or 2008 at the latest; after the two seminal moments of Al Gore trying to steal the presidential election of 2000 and the two minute hate that was the Paul Wellstone memorial in ’02.

  11. Republicans need to aggressively attack this fascist evil by demanding Obama, Bernie, Hillary and Lynch renounce these Gestapo tactics. Get them on the record now! Use their tactics against them. Trump, Cruz,Kasich,Rubio, Preibus,Mitt- every damn one of them. Seize the opportunity!!

  12. I am beginning to worry that we might see our first attempted assassination of a candidate in almost a century. I am also worried that whoever gets elected, may not live long afterwards. There is too much anger out there, now, and neither the Democrats, nor Mr. Trump seem to have any interest in it’s ending.

    Both Trump and the Democrats are running on hate, and that leads to people killing, in the believe that their hate justifies the killing. I fear it is just a matter of time.

  13. I am beginning to worry that we might see our first attempted assassination of a candidate in almost a century.

    So George Wallace doesn’t count?

  14. Just earlier today, at a rally in Dayton, Ohio, a man named Tommy Dimassimo tried to rush the stage Trump was on, before the Secret Service hauled him off in cuffs. Check out the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06d4t1704N8

    Tommy Dimassimo has been involved in other radical leftist protests.

    The larger point to take away from this, examining Chicago last night, and Dayton today, is that it might not matter what Trump says or does. The radical Left would be doing the SAME THING to an outspoken Republican front-runner candidate.

    Trump could be home right now, in Trump Tower, eating Trump steaks and playing Trump the board-game, with never having bothered to run for President, and protests like this would still happen.

    The radical Left is angry, and believes that Obama did not go far enough, or has been too nice to Republicans. They were angry long before Trump announced his candidacy in June of 2015. In many ways, the are like 1960s radicals, utterly convinced of their own moral superiority, and unwilling to listen to or respect others.

    And see this for what can happen, when those on the other side get fed up with leftist protesters, like in New York, in May 1970:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Hat_Riot

  15. ‘I do not accuse Trump, and certainly not his opponents. After all, if you claim to be a conservative, even with no evidence that you are, you will attract unwanted attention from the radicalized and aggrieved on the left.’

    Proof enough that the left isn’t very smart. They’re protesting the wrong campaign.

  16. SCOTTtheBADGER at 6:53 pm,

    My soon to be 94 yr old father said a few weeks ago that he had a feeling that another assassination is coming. I agree about the anger. But there was an attempted assassination of Reagan, remember?

    Given that anger, I wouldn’t give odds that the next President will see the end of their first term.

    I suspect that the anger on the right is greater than on the left but the willingness to resort to violence is much higher on the left.

  17. blert Says:
    Variations on this theme were used eighty years ago across Europe.

    As the saying goes, “The dark night of fascism is always descending in the United States and yet lands only in Europe.”

    We aren’t Europe.
    I think it’s more likely that as street brawls and riots occur more frequently, America will generally recoil from the parties involved.

  18. Scott and GB:
    Hell, if an assassination attempt is in the cards, why wait til after Obama?
    Answer:
    An assassination will be attempted ONLY if the next POTUS is Republican.

    Lawlessness is now and always has been a Leftist trademark. Unions, their organization and their strikes more than 100 years ago now. “I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night, alive as you and me” is a Woody Guthrie song ennobling a union organizer convicted and executed for murder of a grocery store owner and wife..

    Who shot McKinley? JFK? RFK? Who tried to kill Truman? Or Wallace? They’re all leftwing and/or nutters. Sure, it’s a vast right wing conspiracy!

  19. McKinley was shot by a raving anarchist — that era’s equivalent to Occupy Wall Street.

    { Notable for occupying a site owned by a trust-fund Leftist — and for getting gourmet catered meals from Leftists.

    RFK was our nation’s first jihad casualty — and the Press didn’t even know what the term was.

  20. Must I remind all that President Obama has been raising MASSIVE funds — Organizing for America ?

    That’s the money pot that’s enabling these social media assaults.

    Google is involved up past their eye balls.

    IIRC, so too is Apple.

    Which makes one wonder WHY Apple has flipped on cyber security for the iPhone OS.

    BUT, just for America.

    Not Red China.

  21. The Leftist thugs did the same thing at the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York City, when Bush was renominated. You know, Mr. Civility? Mr. “Never Fight Back”?

    It. Did. Not. Matter.

    This is what They DO.

    Trump engaged in tough-guy talk, much of it humorous; all of it expressing the feeling so many of us have that we’re fed up to the back teeth with the Leftist goons. Not at ALL the same as Obama saying, for just one example, “If they bring a Knife to the fight, we bring a GUN!”

    But yeah, Trump is the worst guy ever. Or something. Folks, we’re going to get rolled and kicked in the head until we’re spent, or we fight back. Somehow or other, we’ll have to get tough with the enemy within. You can’t have a conversation with someone who’s kicking you in the gonads.

  22. At the Belmont Club, “sevenwheel” said this:

    I have a few facebook friends who are lefties. One of the reasons I like to keep them in my feed is to get a window into what is going through *their* social media.

    This was planned from the moment the tickets were released. I saw multiple left-wing sites calling on anti-Trumpers to reserve blocks of tickets so they could disrupt the event. I wouldn’t be surprised if half the tickets went to the rioters.

    Reports are that the plan was that dozens of rioters were to position themselves close to the stage, and rush the stage on a predetermined signal to attack the candidate. This would likely have triggered the use of deadly force by the Secret Service to protect Mr. Trump, and a violent riot would have likely followed, with Trump supporters and rioters likely being injured or killed in the arena and on the streets outside.

    Cancelling the event was absolutely the right move. The American people, and especially the people of Chicago, need to respond to what just happened. The proper venue for that response is in the polling place on Tuesday. For better or for worse.

  23. sdffer, I forgot about Wallace!

    Geoffrey Britain, Point taken, I was only referring to candidates, but yes, Reagan was shot, and Squeaky, and Sara Jane Moore tried to get Gerry Ford. Again, leftists, and or Lunatics.

    I don’t think Hillary will survive the campaign. She has more than one stroke already, and she has never been in a Presidential campaign where she was the target before, the current primary season being handed to her. Once she gets real stress, I suspect that she will stroke out. Which would probably be the best thing for all concerned, as a Hillary Administration would be Corruption, Inc unleashed to the point that I am not sure the country would survive, at least not in it’s current form. Twelve years of Chicago politics is a lot to ask of a nation.

  24. sdffer, I forgot about Wallace!

    Geoffrey Britain, Point taken, I was only referring to candidates, but yes, Reagan was shot, and Squeaky, and Sara Jane Moore tried to get Gerry Ford. Again, leftists, and or Lunatics.

    I don’t think Hillary will survive the campaign. She has had more than one stroke already, and she has never been in a Presidential campaign where she was the target before, the current primary season being handed to her. Once she gets real stress, I suspect that she will stroke out. Which would probably be the best thing for all concerned, as a Hillary Administration would be Corruption, Inc unleashed to the point that I am not sure the country would survive, at least not in it’s current form. Twelve years of Chicago politics is a lot to ask of a nation.

  25. To all those saying it is all on the radical leftists, don’t think that is a correct assessment.
    .
    Maybe memory is short, but don’t recall any such thing happening to this extent for GOP candidates in 2000, 2004, 2008, or 2012.
    .
    Yes, we can point to all kinds of other events in recent times, but why Trump and why now, rather than else-when for nomination campaigns over the last 16 years?
    .
    This just seems very different in its context that is hard to put a finger on other than to say…
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    It just seems that the tone and temperament that Trump engages in to motive his supporters is the very thing that motivates radical groups opposed to do these things, especially members of his rhetorical target groups and their sympathizers.
    .
    Scratch the surface of some of the justification for supporting Trump, and one wonders if there is not some desire to forcefully impose some view on everyone else, to be found.
    .
    The red flags hinting so, are to be found everywhere, coupled with a steadfast refusal by many admitted “very angry” supporters to even debate the issues, policy proposals, heck, even basic facts, and we have a recipe for more violence to come.
    .
    It is visceral that this is different…very different from anything most of us have experienced in our lives.

  26. Beverly:
    “Folks, we’re going to get rolled and kicked in the head until we’re spent, or we fight back. Somehow or other, we’ll have to get tough with the enemy within.”

    “Somehow or other”?

    The somehow is already known and there is no other way. Play the game – it’s the only social cultural/political game there is.

    Social activist movement versus social activist movement, head-on competition, throughout the arena.

    Activism isn’t the Left’s game. It’s the people’s game that always available to anyone for any cause.

    It only looks like the Left’s game when they’re running up the score unmolested on a field that’s been left open by conservatives who restrict themselves to tut-tutting, finger-shaming, and stink-eyeing the Left while blaming the GOP for conservatives’ own neglect.

    In fact, the Left is beatable in the activist game, just like any human beings are in any prosaic nuts-and-bolts worldly competition. But they’re only beatable once you compete with them for real.

    Now that they’ve lightly scrimmaged for the 1st time versus the varsity Democrat-front Left, will the “jayvee” Left-mimicking Trump-front alt-Right activists up their game? Or, will it turn out that they’re only capable of bullying easy-picking conservatives who mostly defeat themselves in the activist game?

    Again, there is only one somehow and there is no other way to compete for real. Collective embrace of Marxist-method activism by conservatives.

    Stride into the arena zealously committed as a team to compete head-on with all comers, whether Left or alt-Right, and any one else championing an incompatible social condition.

    Like any people, they’re all beatable, but only when you play to win the game.

  27. Big Maq Says:
    It just seems that the tone and temperament that Trump engages in to motive his supporters is the very thing that motivates radical groups opposed to do these things, especially members of his rhetorical target groups and their sympathizers.

    I think I said this here before:
    The problem with Trump, but especially his supporters, is that they are like enraged bulls. That makes them very easy to manipulate through provocation.
    It’s exactly like the Palestinians and Israelis.

    Trump’s rallies will be the only ones attacked because they are the only ones where the left will get a response. If this is attempted at another candidate’s rally, the BLM folks will look like dicks by comparison.

    BTW, part of this that irks the shit out of me is the idea that I’m being manipulated by Trump as well. That man doesn’t give a shit about the 1st amendment, but he’s wrapping himself in the constitution, and his supporters are maligning everyone who doesn’t rush to their aid.

    They are putting all the rest of us reasonable people into an untenable moral dilemma, and I don’t like it one bit.
    The hypocrisy of it stinks, too.

  28. Ever since 2008, I’ve taken comfort in thinking that commu-facism (maybe more correctly, total statism) isn’t about to descend since there have been no brownshirts in sight.

    They showed up in Chicago.

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