October 25th, 2016

Obamacare…

…marches on with double-digit premium hikes.

Sometimes I get tired of typing the words “no surprise.” But it’s no surprise.

12 Responses to “Obamacare…”

  1. sdferr Says:

    Also no surprise is the wording “double-digit premium hikes” in the AP headline, where the “double-digit” applies to a percentage, rather than a mere payment: so 25% (which may run into triple digits for some), rather than $25.

    Herewith then a graphic representation of the press from JesseKellyDC:

    Live look at the media right now with this #Obamacare news: pic.twitter.com/FujOREzLJ1— Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) October 24, 2016

  2. J.J. Says:

    Obamacare, a law known to be a complete failure – kind of like prohibition. It is a winning issue for every Republican candidate. (It was passed by a strictly Democrat vote. Not one Republican voted for it.) Yet I hear almost nothing about it except for Trump’s vow to repeal it.

    Pundits all say the Republicans can’t say much because they have no alternative. Which, of course, is a lie. For which see this:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/06/22/republicans-have-a-plan-to-replace-obamacare-and-its-costs-are-unclear/

    I don’t know why they keep saying the uninsured don’t get health care. Since 1984 (When EMTALA was passed), no one who goes to an ER can be turned away. I have been in ERs and seen the poor and immigrants (Illegal? I don’t know.) who line up for routine medical service. Obamacare was going to put an end to that, but it didn’t. ER use for routine medical care is up.
    For which see this:
    http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2014/06/07/patients-flocking-emergency-rooms-obamacare/10181349/

    The progs believe they can alter human nature. Obamacare is a monument to the fact that you can’t.

  3. Ymarsakar Says:

    Yet I hear almost nothing about it except for Trump’s vow to repeal it.

    Trum loved socialized medicine in 2015, what changed?

    Of course they’ll change Obamacare. To Canada, UK, and Cuba’s system, which works “better” in the eyes of so called “non ideologues”.

  4. expat Says:

    I just saw CNN’s coverage tonight and they briefly mentioned the double-digit price increase, but not much else. No info about deductables, copays, or limited nets of providers. Then they switched over to talking about Florida voting. What a way to keep voters informed about important issues.

  5. Big Maq Says:

    “Pundits all say the Republicans can’t say much because they have no alternative. Which, of course, is a lie.” – JJ

    The problem is you point to a proposal only released on June 22 2016.

    This is something that the GOP should have been on one page LONG ago.

    “Repeal and Replace” was a nice slogan, but “With What?” was always on people’s minds.

    Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.

    Too little too late.

    With trump having blown it, ACA will become a wedge issue for dems as the GOP will be d*mned if they do anything to shore it up from complete disaster, and d*mned that they do nothing while a large swath of voters are impacted by that disaster.

  6. huxley Says:

    It’s wonderful Republicans nominated Trump. Otherwise we would be discussing the failures of Obamacare and other disasters in this campaign.

    Crotch grabs are so much more substantive, you know?

    Thank you Trump supporters!

  7. parker Says:

    The unaffordable cancer act was designed to fail. The medical cabal (insurance, big pharms, hospitals, caregivers) were sucker punched into believing their palms would be greased. Fools. LIVs swallowed the blue pill. Fools.

  8. Surellin Says:

    “No surprise” is easier to type than “This is my shocked face”. 🙂

  9. Ray Says:

    We knew from Hillary care what was going to happen. In 1995 Tennessee enacted Hillary care, only they called it Tenncare. By 2004 the cost more than tripled from 2.5 billion to 8 billion a year. Tenncare became the largest line item in the Tennessee state budget. They had to drastically scale back the program because it was going to bankrupt the state.

  10. J.J. Says:

    Big Maq: “Very hard to build support to repeal ACA, as the House GOP have put forward bills on, several times, but not have an answer to the concerns from enough constituents who would make up that support.

    Too little too late.”

    Sometimes I think you are so rational and above the fray that you would, like many other conservatives, reject solutions because………well, just because they are late or too little or ???

    The fact that the replacement plan has been hard to agree on, reflects all the various strains of the GOP. From RINO to hard core TEA Party everyone has a different opinion about what needs to be done. If it was easy, it would have been done years ago.

    What we knew and have now confirmed was that the centralized model does not work. Moving toward a more market based plan that provides a safety net for those with pre-existing conditions would work far better than a top down system.

    I have experienced single payer medicine – the military model. I can tell you horror stories about how badly that system works. (And the VA is just the most obvious.)

    I don’t care that the plan was only formulated in June 2016. I am all for getting rid of Obamacare in anyway possible. My daughter and her partner, because they are self -employed, have to buy Obamacare. They lost their doctors last year. This year they have ONE choice of insurers and their premiums went up another 30% (added to 75% from previous years increases) and their deductibles are $7500. You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous. When enough people are affected and become incensed (Unlike you, who seems too cerebral to understand.) we will get change.

  11. Ymarsakar Says:

    Yea, for those with foresight, it is no surprise. To the average normals… well, they kept saying ObamaCare, nothing bad would happen and you could keep your doctor if you liked him so… humans believe all kinds of propaganda based on merely wishing that it is so. But wishing doesn’t making reality change, unless someone has a really powerful will.

  12. Ymarsakar Says:

    You may get your insurance through your employer or be wealthy enough to self insure, but for people who have no where to turn but Obamacare it is a ruinous.

    All they have to do is become a Congress critter, since Congress has their gold and silver plated healthcare plans intact, which is a combination of the best free market solutions before Obamacare, community/doctor network exchanges, and the insurance model.

    The reason why Congress has solid healthcare is because they pay into some kind of centralized fund, which is used with market forces to increase the efficiency of their doctor networks and care/medical resources.

    One of the things I often said about Obamacare is that it is a kind of a consumption law. It is designed to ensure that the peons, meaning you and company, have to pay more for less medical resources. Why? So that the medical resources used to save the lives of Ted Kennedy and Congress, doesn’t go to waste. There’s some rare and valuable stuff that if got spent on everyone, would become harder for Congress to acquire for their healthcare.

    The old consumption law in aristocracy was that you couldn’t wear purple or dress like a noble, if you were a merchant or lower class. That reserved the top goods, the rare stuff, for the nobles, and prevented the merchants from competing by upping the bid.

    As Obamacare makes medical resources more expensive for JJ and company, it ironically, makes it more cheaper and inexpensive for Congress. After all, aren’t doctors leaving their care and hospitals because of malpractice and other issues? If doctors and nurses could join the payment plans offered by Congress, backed by the open market and centralized funds, they wouldn’t have to worry about Medicare or emergency costs.

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