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  1. “I have little doubt about one thing: it will be interesting. And another: the press will attempt to give President Trump a very, very, very hard time.”

    Oh yes, but he’s probably ready for it. Here’s an interesting take on his use of tweets by a long time contributor to WUWT, Willis Eschenbach. If he continues as Eschenbach foresees, it will sideline the MSM and drive them crazy at the same time…this could be fun!

    https://rosebyanyothernameblog.wordpress.com/2016/12/26/staking-out-the-far-edge/

  2. I have to wonder how many of these legacy actions Obama would have taken had Hillary won. It is possible that he woud have trusted her to do similar things, but it is also possible that he would not have wanted her to take credit for any of his great ideas.

    At any rate, I do feel good that Obama’s executive orders won’t last and that he won’t choose any more judges.

    Right now, I am just happy to see Obama go.

  3. The press will not just attempt, but will assuredly do whatever it can to harass Trump, misrepresent him, distort his positions and policies, malign him.
    The RINOs, like Ryan and McConnell, will work with the press to hamstring Trump. It is a very good thing Priebus is his chief of staff, if in fact Trump can trust him to deliver and not be a mole.
    The Senate is not to be trusted.
    Trump needs help.That was the campaign theme that got John Kennedy, the new (R) Senator from LA, elected. A good man, but John has got a slippery side too.

  4. Frog:

    The word “attempt” was in there—and in italics, as well—to convey the idea that the press will definitely try but may not succeed, because one thing Trump seems quite ready for is their attacks, and he has done quite well at deflecting them in the past. Not only that, but the press’s attempts at giving Trump a hard time have often backfired because they are too over the top and relentless.

  5. I agree that msm criticism will not bother djt. The msm did not make him, unlike bho, and thus they can not unmake him. We’ll see what he does in the first year. IMO he has to nominate a truly conservative constitutionalist to SCOTUS and fully enforce immigration laws already on the books. Congress needs to defund sanctuary cities and tear down ocare. Wouldn’t that be lovely?

  6. Trump is another Teflon man, like Reagan. He knows their games and refuses to play ala Reagan. He has many ways to reach his constituency without going through the MSM.

    His work ethic and ability to pick competent people to work under him are going to be interesting to watch. I’m very hopeful that he will be able to secure the border, deport illegal immigrant criminals, defund sanctuary cities, roll back many unneeded regulations, and unleash the energy industry. Anything he accomplishes beyond that (Tax reform, military improvements, inner city uplift, infrastructure rebuilding, etc.) will be icing on the cake.

  7. Neo- the MSM will attack Trump by attacking RINOs, especially House members. Trump cannot do his tasks, achieve his goals, by himself, obviously.
    The MSM will try (“attempt”), and they will have success. The question is how much.
    As always, thanks for your italics.

  8. OM,

    As you well know, I am not a big djt fan. I find his bombast and outlandishness off putting. However, I do not think he is ignorant. I have been encouraged and surprised by many of his cabinet picks.and I enjoy how he drives the msm up the wall. So I will wait and see what he does in 2017.

    I advise you do the same. Ankle biting ain’t the way brother.

  9. It’s funny how differently people use the same word. For me, the two biggest RINOs in recent decades are Ron Paul and, of course, the loudest of them all, Donald Trump. Both attempted what you might call hostile takeovers of the Republican Party.

    Ron Paul’s attempt failed, though he did significant damage to the Republican Party, and I think it likely that Trump’s will, too.

    I have often wished that those who use the word, which I almost never do, would give us an operational definition of the word.

    (I haven’t bothered to make an operationalal definition of “RINO”, but I don’t think it would be hard to do. You could, for example, begin by looking at which party received most of their contributions, whether they had opposed or supported Ronald Reagan, whether they thought George W. Bush should be impeached, and so on.

    For members of Congress, you could just look up how loyal to the party they are in floor votes.)

  10. parker – You might find some reason for hope in the weird argument I made in December, explaining why I thought Trump might impersonate a conservative Republican.

    I linked to it today, along with my February argument that Trump can be thought of as a Bill Clinton Democrat.

  11. Parker:

    As Neo has said “We will have to wait and see.” You are keeping your eyes open and have been aware of Trump’s characteristics. some others, not so much it seems already.

    I hope he turns out better than I expect. Time will tell, it always does,

  12. I am not expecting djt to be anything other than djt. I am willing to see if I can trust him for an inch, then a foot, and then a yard. Bets are off when it comes to a mile. Patience. Wait and see. The good news is hrc will never be POTUS, the unknown unknown is exactly what djt will do.

    I supported Cruz with my own time and money in Iowa, and we won. Yet, that turned out to be a flash in the pan. I have questioned djt’s ‘vision’ all the way until he won 270. Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year’s worth of slack.

  13. Let us not forget who the enemy is. Let us not turn on the Anti-Left before it is time. Think of national politics as equivalent to a season of MLB, with a lot of games to be played to reach the World Series.

  14. Jim Miller:

    “RINO” usually is short for “a Republican the speaker doesn’t like.” It used to have more meaning than that, but now it’s come down to that.

    I wrote about the evolution of the word here.

  15. “And another: the press will attempt to give President Trump a very, very, very hard time.”

    Very true. They’ve already been going for him, snapping at his heels at every opportunity.

    The headlines and the stories are laden with negative spin and innuendo.

    It’s a deluge of vicious reportage—no doubt because they love America?—and it should be contrasted with the headlines and stories about both Obama and Clinton.

    In fact, what the media doing is full-frontal incitement.

    (Obama, too, has this attitude. Naturally so.)

    And they’re preaching to a crowd that includes some very excitable people.

    To the point where anything, unfortunately, is possible in the fury that has been whipped up.

    If I were Trump, I would watch my back.

  16. “Now he will be POTUS. So I will cut him a year’s worth of slack.” – parker

    Waaaaaay too much slack, IMHO.

    trump campaigned on nearly everything and really nothing (mutable) – bet most have “forgotten” his promise to release his tax returns after being elected, as one example of probably a string of broken promises to come.
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    He thrives on media attention and to maintain that he must remain an enigma.

    Problem is, an enigma as POTUS creates its own problems, with unpredictable outcomes.

    A moral man of principle might be able to navigate that, but that doesn’t seem to be the man we have (at least, that is something he has yet to prove).

    The cheers and “hope” will quickly end if (when?) we have a major trade battle (and its economic consequences), and/or we see a rogue nation take a step too far that even trump cannot ignore (and clumsily responds to).
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    trump has to get this sh*t right from day one, and operate with some discipline.

    His first 90 days MAY set the tone and direction (notwithstanding what we will have already seen between Nov 8 and inaugural day), but who knows?

    That’s about as much “slack” as I’d recommend giving him, considering he seems to be the biggest “RINO” (in the original sense that Neo wrote about) in several generations, and has had more than plenty of time to give us a sense of what he would really do.
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    Until then, it is not worth much commentary, as it is all speculative, likely on yet another shiny object that trump would have the media (and the rest of us) chase down to fill time and attention with.

  17. Dont take away his twitter, just force him to give the device to someone else, and make it policy that there is at least a 12 hour gap from the time he writes it, to the time its sent.

    The other thing he fails to do, and I am speaking as someone who has never tweeted, he fails to retweet crap that is over the top.

    He gets alot of ugly nasty thrown his way by lefties. He should just pass along and retweet some the worst of it. Make the left and democrats/msm own it. They created these delusional hitler hunters, let them be the ones to correct it.

    Would crack me up to see them have to cover some ugly leftist trolls, merely cause the POTUS, retweeted it.

    I still smile about the flag burning tweet. I saw the troll aspect right away, I had to spit something into the trashcan cause it came back up when I sstarted laughing, really.

    Could they resist pouncing? Nope. And they showed everyone that they are for free speech, but only if it agrees with their side, otherwise shouting down and safe spaces are employed. It was classic, and brilliant.

    Do I love Trump? nope. I did vote for him. IF he does nothing but scrap ocare, and burn down a large part of DC, I will be happy.

    He could easily put Virginia back to a red state by just cutting the govt workforce through attrition.

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