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  1. Nice job of dissecting the rhetoric, Neo. Unfortunately, once a word or phrase gets into the public consciousness, it seems to take on characteristics of immortality.

    I objected to a blogger, whom I greatly respect, twice repeating, “majority Muslim countries” without qualification. Sure, it is technically accurate, but, it is also grossly misleading when used as a stand-alone characterization.

    The one who controls the language, shapes the narrative. I wish that more conservatives would push back hard on corrupted or misleading language at every opportunity.

  2. Tell a Big Lie long enough… demonize Trump to nueter him, to regain the Senate and the Presidency in 2020…

  3. I’m sure it’s a smart move on Yates’s part in terms of self-interest. She no doubt has guaranteed a bright future somewhere in the liberal machine.

    It still amazes me how many radical left/black power criminals went on to fine careers in academia (Bill Ayers, Angela Davis), law (Bernardine Dohrn) and even pension funds (Jane Alpert).

    I don’t worry much about Bradley Manning’s future either — though he may be too screwed-up make good use of his opportunities as a hero to the anti-American left.

  4. When I first saw headlines and articles on the Yates issue, the writing made me think she was a Trump appointee. That omg, even Trump’s own appointee thinks he’s an illegal unconstitutional menace!!!

    Turns out nope, she’s an Obama appointee, the order was ‘legal,’ and she should have resigned if she couldn’t do her job.

    But maybe since the entire leftosphere thinks America is Nazi Germany now, “just doing your job,” is a “war crime.”

  5. no place else to put this but its important like the media matters founders memo on taking down trump…

    Obstruction of Justice: An Overview
    of Some of the Federal Statutes That
    Prohibit Interference with Judicial,
    Executive, or Legislative Activities
    Charles Doyle
    Senior Specialist in American Public Law
    April 17, 2014
    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34303.pdf

    basically, if you look, there are a TON of laws and things that the administration coudl have always used to stop the kinds of things going on!! but chose not to, in violation of the laws they chose not to

    i brought up the document in terms of the games california says it will play, like being sanctuary (illegal under lots of different angles), not cooperating with president (lots of conspiracy and federal statues including rico versions against such obstruction), and tons more

    this is the problem with laws left but chosen not to be enforced (and the laws i said that were passed and never enforced so that they cant be removed, which lie in wait for a future), as you stop thinking of them when you think to do things

    there is no promise of a custom that will not use tools htat are available that dems decided were neutered by voluntary inaction (which inaction itself would be covered under obstruction).

    i wonder what would happen if the full flower of the laws that are on the books are followed – it will show that all of this could have been prevented if and only if the public knew what to hold their representatives to and not forget they are not rulers.

    sorry about the distraction, but if i dont, i will forget and it wont make it up.. (especially the media matters leak i gave you all that isnt even in the news and might not be)

  6. Well Yates has certainly made the most of her very short appointment as acting AG, hasn’t she? She was only keeping the seat warm until Sessions was confirmed, but she saw an opportunity to instantly become a SJW-martyr. Now everyone knows the name Sally Yates.

    Bravo, Ms. Yates. In awe of your “brave stand.” You shouldn’t have any trouble landing your next gig.

  7. The NYT is just acting in its capacity as the Democratic Party’s Ministry of Truth. Nothing new here.

  8. There’s a question practically screaming to be asked of Yates, though I’m confident that no journalist will do so. “Why didn’t you react in a similar fashion to Obama’s nearly identical executive order?”

  9. Can’t wait to see where she lands on her feet: Professor at Harvard? Yale? Partner at large public interest firm? Keep us apprised.

  10. junior:

    Could you provide a link to this “nearly identical” order? If you mean the one that mentioned the seven countries, it certainly wasn’t “nearly identical.” It was far milder.

  11. This is a wild guess on my part, but I can’t help wonder whether the coming fall of Mosul may have helped put this issue on the front burner. The ISIS leaders must have been planning what to do when they are kicked out. We also know that they are able to produce false documents and passports that would allow them to sneak into other countries as refugees and continue to recruit and cause other troubles in refugee camps. Iraq obviously hasn’t been able to vet any of the Mosul people, although they probably have some informers.

  12. Alan W: That would be FULL Professor at a big-name Leftist law school. I suspect Georgetown and Stanford are in the running.
    Neo: so what did the far milder Obama EO say about the seven countries? Don’t make us all do the homework you have already done.

  13. “But the Times is very effective in misinforming its readers in the manner it thinks is best for them. In fact, I have already had conversations with friends who seem to lack any real notion of what the Trump EO is and what it does, except that they are convinced that it is a step along the road to Hitlerian awfulness.”

    Ah, “friends who seem to lack any real notion.”

    My friends’ lack of any real notion is driving me nuts. Just yesterday, here in sunny California, a friend and his thirtyish daughter expressed their fear that Trump’s nominee(s) to the Supreme Court would make abortion illegal. They were shocked, and remain disbelieving, when I explained that no matter what SCOTUS did, abortion would be illegal in California only to the extent that its legislature (or perhaps voters pursuant to a proposition process) made it so.

  14. Yes, the countries targeted by the Trump EO are indeed “predominantly Muslim.”

    Wonderful example in the quote of mainstream media weaseling on the facts.

    These countries are “predominantly Muslim”, or “majority Muslim” as NPR put it, in the same way Nazi Germany was “majority National Socialist”, or the USSR, significantly communist.

    Other than in the case of Syria, Islam is the official religion of the polity. Though in the case of Sudan, you might wish to stipulate that it is merely that Sharia law predominates.

    And if you are disturbed by the suspicion that I have as much contempt for Islam and its prophet as for Karl Marx or Alfred Rosenberg, you would be right.

  15. As somebody who used to work for the British civil service, I found Yates’ behaviour to be execrable. I was under no illusions that if I was asked to do something with which I disagreed on political or moral grounds, there were only three courses of action open to me:

    1. Resign.
    2. Ask to have somebody else do it (not a good path to follow) which would probably lead to 1. above in Yates’ case.
    3. Carry out the job for which I was employed.

    Yates should have done the same.

  16. My impression isn’t that Yates “defiantly refused”, but instead silently refused, and when it was discovered by the White House that she had refused, only then did she speak up with her reasons.

    She should actually be facing, at best disciplinary actions from her bar, and should be disbarred for allowing her client, the executive branch, to go unrepresented in a court case.

    Just before Trump was inaugurated, I mentioned that he should fire every single Obama appointee with the very first EO and have them out the door within an hour. It was utterly predictable that Obama’s appointees would take every opportunity to stab Trump in the back.

  17. What Yancey Ward just said.
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    Yates 15 minutes of fame may not overcome prospective law firms wondering just what kind of team player she will be. Even law schools need to consider the merits of denying legal representation when it was her duty to provide same. My guess is that George Soros will fund a senior fellow position at the Anita Hill Center for Principled Distortion and Disloyalty.

  18. Waging social justice on national Muslims has produced catastrophic anthropogenic climate change and a trail of tears for those refugees abandoned by the peace-mongers. Survivors, welcome.

  19. It was utterly predictable that Obama’s appointees would take every opportunity to stab Trump in the back.

    That’s just Trum acting stupid, and his advisers not realizing the hell pit that is DC. Nor did his supporters get much of a say in it, since they aren’t in on the counsel.

  20. Ymarsakar, if there is a point; would please amplify ofr me?

    Trump acting stupid? I had no idea that anyone dared say that at this point; other than, of course, those who who earlier said that Trump was too stupid to be President, and now need to double down. I disregard them; because they obviously do not know what is in Trump’s mind, nor exactly what his strategy is. I now assume that there is always strategic thinking behind whatever he does. I think at this point, it is wise to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on all actions until some outcome is apparent.

  21. Personally, I sometimes wish islam as an ideology was rubbed out as one would rub out a deadly bacteria. In such moments I calm down and admit many muslims are not violent sharia supporting jihadists. My problem with islam is that a majority of muslims do not actively shun the death cultists.

  22. What the magic 7 Muslim nations all have in common ?

    A sea of counterfeit passports, Syria being the worst.

    How can you vet them ?

  23. Gotta love NYT’ choice of words. Defies. How, er, noble – courageous, no, “progressive.”

  24. Remember that Bill Clinton fired all 93 US attorneys when he took office. Don’t remember the NYT complaining about that.

  25. Neo, thank you for using ‘visuals’, rather than the annoying ‘optics’. I appreciate your doing so.

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