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  1. I suspect the dems behavior was a reflection of their bases intolerance for any perceived cooperation with the right. Many on the left have passed into their own ‘undiscovered country’ where any aspect of reality that fails to match their fantasies is rejected.

    Jones as of late has made a number of startling comments. He’s much more astute than I had imagined.

  2. When the camera focused on Pelosi, although I can’t read lips, I got the distinct impression she was saying, “Holy shit! We’re not going to be able to beat this guy!”

  3. The last time I watched a SOTU address was 2002. I thought GWB rose above the expections of the opposition party and msm. DJT did not only rise above the sour expectations of the left, it was as if he was looking down on them from stationary orbit.

    Keep surprising them Mr. President.

  4. I thought it was hilarious when Juan Williams commented on the speech and said that wasn’t the real Trump. The real Trump would have been bashing the media, the intelligence agencies, Mexicans, and Muslims.

  5. I suspect that Trump is making inroads with black leadership where it counts- churches, colleges, etc. It is quite possible that Jones senses this and has decided to tack back to the center a bit and drop some some insanity.

  6. I thoroughly enjoyed the speech. I just don’t remember anyone, even the revered Ronald Reagan, doing better. After last night, I would go so far as to say that this could be the Trump that people who know him have always told us about.

    The Pundits say he became President last night. I assume that they mean Presidential, because if they haven’t noticed, he has been President for awhile and doing things they don’t like.

    I hope that President Trump will look at the video, like what he sees, and tell himself; “this is going to be the public “me” henceforth”.

    I have already said the I don’t really care for the person in the balcony routine. Never have; but, especially when it showcases someone’s disability or grief. Clearly, I am out of step with millions on this, as last night was obviously a moment that brought a lot of people together. Mrs Owens, like all family members who suffer her level of loss, deserves respect and profound sympathy.

  7. “Two House Democrats even sat during a two-minute standing ovation for the widow of a slain soldier.”

    That is disgusting. They are going to hell in a handbasket.

    The longer this goes on, the more repugnant the Dems become to Americans of decency. Which is fortunately still the large majority of the US.

  8. Oldflyer:

    I’m with you on the person-in-the-balcony routine no matter what politician does it or what party. Never have liked it, but I know it’s here to stay because it’s effective. I deeply respect the vast majority of those people-in-the-balcony, however, including of course Mrs. Owens.

  9. Well, seems most of my friends –here in my entirely liberal life, sigh– were horrified by the speech, believing it’s a trick. They are lambasting the idea that if anyone thought it was a good speech, it’s only because they are actually a bad person!

    ‘Now, more than ever,’ they cry, furiously sharing contact info to the NY AG’s office, ‘Trump needs to be impeached under the emoluments clause!’

  10. “Well, seems most of my friends —here in my entirely liberal life, sigh— were horrified by the speech, believing it’s a trick.”

    Weird. Hardly a peep out of my friends, which is actually very unusual for them. They normally spend every online waking moment wallowing in lefty political memes. I see one posting a bunch of non-political stuff, otherwise largely a wall of silence from the lefty-left brigade in my life.

  11. The Democrats trotted out emotionally disturbed Cindy Sheehan at the 2006 SOTU in some kind of pathetic “gotcha” attempt.

    The recognition of Mrs. Owens, like it or not, was a far cry from the antics of the lunatic left.

  12. Sorry to be a nit-picker, but I don’t think Trump’s address to congress was a SOTU speech. The guy that just rolled into the oval office doesn’t have much knowledge of the state of the union.

    That said it was a damn fine speech.

  13. Kyndyll, I’m jealous, it’s getting exhausting. Almost everyone I know is still working on being totally flipped out. The reaction this time seems to be on the order of freaking out about “normalization.” Apparently they were caught up short by Trump sounding presidential. And now, they also hate Van Jones, lol.

  14. I heard someone say (Limbaugh, I think) that the main reason the Democrats “sat on their hands” during President Trump’s address to congress was to appeal to their donor base. Makes sense.

    However, not rising to acknowledge and applause a grieving widow of a combat-fallen NAVY SEAL while over 40-million Americans were watching on television is, to me, about the dumbest way a politician could try to raise money.

    But I’m sure that a small percentage of their base in the 489 counties that Hillary won last November (out of 3,112) approved of the despicable and disgusting public display.

    It’s no wonder the Democratic Politboro has descended to the depths of utter insignificance and irrelevancy.

  15. Esther, I agree. It’s an absurd comment on the times that these people I refer to occasionally here are (were?) actual, real-life friends, people I’ve known for 15-20 years or more. My husband and I are watching real-life friendships spiral down the drain and as hateful and intolerant as they had become before the Trump election (particularly throughout the second Obama term), they amped it up afterward. I had, briefly, a sense of relief when Hillary didn’t win, but after almost five months of angry, screaming tantrums and threats from people who actually want to destroy the election process and peaceful transition of power just to get their way, relief has long since melted away to be replaced by a deep foreboding. They don’t believe in values that make it possible to share our country peacefully, for the simple reason that they have proved that they cannot peacefully coexist with people who believe differently than they do. They will continue doing this until they win, or until they lose – and nothing about either outcome bodes well for the country.

    Yesterday’s silence was because there was not a retort or distraction circulating around in MSM and social media that wasn’t plainly asinine. Today, they’re off and running on Sessions having seen a Russian somewhere.

  16. Go back and look at GW’s State of the Union speeches for 2005 and 2006. The part about Social Security. In 2005, he outlined the financial disaster that is Social Security. He asked the Donks to work together to save Social Security and the financial future of our children. In 2006, poor GW pointed out that the Donks had undermined his efforts. They jeered and gloated. Words don’t do the events justice. You have to see it to really “get” just how obstructionist and loathsome the Donks are.

  17. He hit it out of the park! I have liked some of his speeches and when he’s on, he’s on, but this was above and beyond. He hit Dem talking points like infrastructure and even opened with Black History Month — so that must have also mystified them. I think he’s an interesting president with a unique agenda, that actually does combine parts of left and right (family leave and law and order). Trump has been underestimated and I have been one who has underestimated him. Not any more!

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