March 18th, 2017

Terrorist shot dead at Orly Airport

A man on the French terror watch list shot and wounded a police officer in northern Paris before traveling to Orly airport where he tackled a female soldier and tried to take her rifle. She was among the French soldiers on anti-terror patrols of the airport. She did not release her weapon to the terrorist, and he was subsequently shot and killed by other soldiers.

The dead terrorist has been identified as Ziyed Ben Belgacem, a radicalized Muslim whose apartment was among those searched following the coordinated Paris terror attacks in November 2015.

Another “known wolf.”

I’m also thinking that a female officer may have been targeted because she was presumed to be easier to physically overpower. If someone is carrying a weapon, that person had better look strong as well as be strong.

See also this.

12 Responses to “Terrorist shot dead at Orly Airport”

  1. F Says:

    And he or she better be prepared to use their weapon without a moment’s hesitation. It is a truism among people who carry weapons concealed that the time to decide if you will use that weapon is before the decision is forced upon you. Long before. Years before.

  2. miklos000rosza Says:

    About ten years ago I was married to a woman from Avignon and we seriously considered moving there from the US, but even then the situation with young Arabs seemed so unstable that I’ve been anticipating a civil war there ever since.

    Incidentally, my wife and other French that I spoke with preferred to refer to the “youths” as Arabs rather than as Muslims because “they’re not good Muslims. They drink alcohol and smoke hashish and don’t pray…. They only use Islam as a way to be obnoxious and give women a hard time.”

    There was a lot of popular Marseille rap where the lyrics always seemed to be “I don’t do jihad / but I understand those who do.” Very popular stuff with good beats you’d hear outside all the time.

    A woman in Dijon I’m still friends with feels herself besieged. She and a number of her female friends now take self-defense classes and prepare for things to get worse. She has been “hassled” and vilely insulted by young Arabs — who always travel in packs, and egg each other on. A common insult is to repeat the words pf Miggs from The Silence of the Lambs.

  3. parker Says:

    We all carry weapons: mind, attitude, hands, elbows (never forget your elbows are a hard hitting weapon), feet. Then there are blades and lead injection devices. Mind and attitude (spirit) are the most important. The female was seen as weak, that is why she was singled out. Muslim males are largely incapable of thinking females can be tough targets. Unfortunately, for the most part they are correct.

    Situational awareness is so very important. I live in a low crime area, and state, but everywhere I go I am on alert. But then, I am a bitter clinger.

  4. Geoffrey Britain Says:

    Recently, 60% of the French reported not feeling safe anywhere. Perhaps this attack raised that percentage to 60.5%…

    The deadliness of a weapon is first determined by the mind’s attitude.

  5. AesopFan Says:

    Geoffrey Britain Says:
    March 18th, 2017 at 10:00 pm
    Recently, 60% of the French reported not feeling safe anywhere. Perhaps this attack raised that percentage to 60.5%…

    The deadliness of a weapon is first determined by the mind’s attitude.
    * *
    It’s an accurate perception.
    Look at the map of attacks in the cited link.
    Now imagine the public’s demands and government response if this represented some kind of disease epidemic — think how the USDA swings into action against food manufacturers and restaurants if people just get SICK eating non-compliant food, but especially when someone dies – even just one person.
    Can any of us “bitter clingers” be blamed for thinking the governments of most countries are not serious about combating violent jihadis (whether “good Muslims” or not – hat tip miklos).

  6. blert Says:

    Jihad proceeds in stages — based upon the demographics of the Muslims vs the kafir.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ePVxRLDM0

    It’s the PROGRESSION of jihad that one must comprehend.

  7. Ray Says:

    This happened at Norfolk naval base. The petty officer that was disarmed was a female.
    http://wtvr.com/2014/03/25/naval-station-norfolk-shooting/

  8. Tatterdemalian Says:

    No, actually this is the ideal situation, complete with the ideal result (dead terrorist, nobody else seriously hurt). Concealed carry works the same way, you look like just another bystander until you draw your weapon and end the threat.

    You may not like the fact that someone has to die, but it’s better than this ‘known wolf’ eventually managing to hijack a truck and carry out another Nice massacre.

  9. Daniel in Brookline Says:

    You may not like the fact that someone has to die, but it’s better than this ‘known wolf’ eventually managing to hijack a truck and carry out another Nice massacre.

    In the situation described, it was the terrorist who decided that “someone has to die”. It was the responder who simply replied “you first”.

  10. Tatterdemalian Says:

    Yes, but liberals (and some neo-neocons) never seem willing to frame things that way. “If only she had been intimidating, nobody would have needed to die!” doesn’t really work any better than “If only she hadn’t had a gun, nobody would have needed to die!”

    Criminals will keep pretending to be law-abiding citizens until they think they can achieve their goals. In fencing, you can’t beat an opponent if you try to never give him an opening, because he WILL find an opening sooner or later, and the one he finds will be one that you didn’t intend to give him and aren’t ready to defend against. You have to feint and draw an attack to win consistently, and outside the practice arena, you have to win ALL your battles, because the first one you lose ends your life.

  11. Tatterdemalian Says:

    Yes, but liberals never seem willing to frame things that way. “If only she had been intimidating, nobody would have needed to die!” doesn’t really work any better than “If only she hadn’t had a gun, nobody would have needed to die!”

    Criminals will keep pretending to be law-abiding citizens until they think they can achieve their goals. In fencing, you can’t beat an opponent if you try to never give him an opening, because he WILL find an opening sooner or later, and the one he finds will be one that you didn’t intend to give him and aren’t ready to defend against. You have to feint and draw an attack to win consistently, and outside the practice arena, you have to win ALL your battles, because the first one you lose ends your life.

  12. Tatterdemalian Says:

    Well, dang. I got a “forbidden” result returned on my post, and thought I had finally been banned from the site for making too many counterpoints. Tried again with the possible “offensive” word taken out, and wound up double-posting.

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