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  1. What’s truly terrifying are the comments on that article.

    I honestly cannot see how even the most partisan lefty can defend leaking classified information. (If the roles were reversed, I would still consider it wrong.) Regardless of political orientation of the major players, people with access to classified information face very strict rules about how they access and use that information, and how (if!) it can be shared. Breaking those rules means your job, and probably prison time. How is this in any way controversial?

  2. “I honestly cannot see how even the most partisan lefty can defend leaking classified information. ”

    The scales need to fall from your eyes. These people are depraved.

  3. Sadly, Vanderleun, I do see. It’s just that the better part of me fails to understand why anyone capable of basic cognition is so willing throw away civilization. The rule of law is one of the foundational planks of Western civilization and it clearly means nothing to them.

    The lesser part of me sees them as depraved pond scum, and that scares me. I don’t want to be like them, seeing all people who disagree with me as an evil, subhuman life form, but every day I get hit over the head with reinforcement that to think otherwise would be unwise.

  4. They make the same realization Marx did, that civilization, like God, is imaginary. And that means, like God, it is Wrong and Must Be Destroyed in order to progress.

    It helps that Marx’s bible, The Communist Manifesto, is a tried and true plan for doing exactly that, while being hailed by the useful fools as a hero the entire time.

  5. During the second Iraq War the NYT found out that the Bush administration was successfully tracking the jahadis via their bank accounts. Despite pleas by Bush and Cheney to keep it secret they published anyway no doubt thinking in their usual self important way that they were “speaking truth to power” and ignoring the dangerous consequences of what they did. Although what they did wasn’t officially treason it certainly qualified as objectively treasonous and endangered the lives of US soldiers and civilians. No doubt had they and the leakers of the information been prosecuted the whining about their First Amendment rights would have been off scale. I have no sympathy for the press now nor do I think that what they are doing is anything but an attempt to wreck the Trump administration.

  6. Personally I would like to see more transparency from our government, whether it involves run of the mill government domestic programs or national security matters. And it does seem that much information that is classified is unnecessarily so designated.

    But… BUT…

    What they are talking about is officially classified information, the leaking of which is treasonous; and fully distinct from whistle blowing. Moreover, the leaking appears to me to be 100% motivated by political considerations, not national security concerns, and, in fact, damages rather than improves our national security.

    Find em’, lock em’ up, throw away the key.

  7. My guess is that the press believes it has a right to all information, classified or not, and that leakers are heroes who facilitate their glorious work, and therefore should be allowed free rein.

    IMHO, this all derives from the ongoing mass tantrum that began the moment Ms Clinton lost the election.

    The left needed some explanation to justify their crazed, over-the-top hysteria. And their brilliant answer was/is: Trump is Hitler.

    If this is true, then almost any action is justified to stop him or slow him down. A few legal infractions are small potatoes compared to the overwhelming need to Stop Hitler at all costs!

  8. Hear. Hear.
    I hope that they are nervous; further, I hope that some leakers are caught, and prosecuted mercilessly.

    I have wondered if there were not a plan to leak bogus information to suspected individuals and then to track its progress.

    I would also like to see the idea that the press is protected by the First Amendment, when publishing leaked classified information, tested before SCOTUS. But, that should probably wait until Trump has made another appointment or two.

  9. The press is placing not only the administration at risk, but also Americans and people around the world. Their change of heart with a change in administration is a clear and progressive affront to our Republic, democratic process, and global reform.

  10. But as anxiety grows – and as the fog surrounding the Trump-Russia question gets thicker – there is a tangible fear of the unknown. No one knows how far Trump and his affiliates would go to silence their critics, or the reporters they talk to.
    * * *
    I guess we’ll find out.
    If you aren’t willing to go to jail for breaking the law, then you aren’t a whistleblower, you’re just a leak.

    I sincerely doubt that President Trump and his administration will do anything more than apply the laws as written — and as they are applied to everyone in America except the Clintons and the NYT.

    The Other Gary Says:
    July 7th, 2017 at 6:00 pm…
    The left needed some explanation to justify their crazed, over-the-top hysteria. And their brilliant answer was/is: Trump is Hitler.

    If this is true, then almost any action is justified to stop him or slow him down. A few legal infractions are small potatoes compared to the overwhelming need to Stop Hitler at all costs!
    * * *
    I’ll believe Trump is Hitler when he starts acting like Hitler.
    Which he has not.

    Poland doesn’t think so either.
    * * *
    steve walsh Says:
    July 7th, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    Find em’, lock em’ up, throw away the key.

  11. Even when Obama the Great did it? My guess is that the press believes it has a right to all information, classified or not, and that leakers are heroes who facilitate their glorious work, and therefore should be allowed free rein.

    [NOTE: Boy, I’m sick of writing about the press. But these days, so much seems to come back to issues involving the press.]

    A press is a printing press. When they deluded Americans into accepting the treasonous concept that a “free press” was a bunch of aristocratic humans that should be given authority on what should and shouldn’t be published, you had already given up the free press.

    The journalist overlords believe they have the right of information, because every time you talk about the “press”, it is an icon of the Authority and Power you as Americans have given them. And they know it.

  12. The scales need to fall from your eyes. These people are depraved.

    The idea that they are people… is going to be successfully challenged later.

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