August 30th, 2017


Just to prove how trivial the Twitter conversation can be, we have Stilettogate over this fashion choice of Melania Trump’s on the way to board a plane to view the floods of Texas:

Personally, I’m in extreme awe that Melania can walk in them at all, even on dry land.

But, unfortunately for the liberal/leftist wags of Twitter, Stilettogate’s scandals turned into the much more humdrum Sneakergate when Melania did the unthinkable and actually (gasp!) changed her shoes on the airplane:

That is one good-looking lady, by the way. If I were to wear that outfit, I sure wouldn’t look like that.

But the Melania critics of Twitter hardly missed a beat. Next it was her hat that upset them:

If you care to spend time reading any more about it, you can take a look at this piece by the sniffingly disdainful Robin Givhan in the WaPo. Givhan’s niche is the intersection of fashion and culture and politics, and she sees Melania is an empty artifact full of shoes and frocks, signifying nothing [emphasis mine]:

Melania Trump is the kind of woman who travels to a flood-ravaged state in a pair of black snakeskin stilettos. Heels this high are not practical. But Trump is not the kind of woman who has to be practical…

…[S]ometimes pretense is everything. It’s the reason for the first lady to go to Texas at all: to symbolize care and concern and camaraderie. To remind people that the government isn’t merely doing its job, that the government is engaged with each and every individual. Washington hears its citizens. That’s what the optics are all about…

And for her trip to Texas, the first lady offered up a fashion moment instead of an expression of empathy.

Observers were baffled by her shoes in particular. Those shoes. Those shoes. Good Lord, those shoes…Heading off to Texas, she looked dressed to view a natural disaster from a distance, from on high, not up close. Her ensemble implied that people’s personal stories would be ferried to her after they had been vetted and tidied up. There was no suggestion that Trump would be flat-footed in the muck, hearing their truth in messy, tearful open-ended confusion.

By the time Trump landed in Texas she had changed. She was still wearing black trousers, but they were paired with a white shirt and sneakers. She still had her sunglasses, but her hair was pulled into a ponytail. She also was wearing a black baseball cap that said “FLOTUS” in white letters. The cap was like a hedge against her blending into the crowd. A defense against any possibility that for just a split second she might seem regular. She is not like you, or you, or you, it says. She is the first lady.

I don’t know about you, but that article kinda makes me want to barf. I like to analyze and nitpick with the best of them (or the worst of them), but to me this just expresses cattiness and emptiness on the part of the writer, not on Melania’s part.

And in regard to the portion I’ve bolded, how on earth does Givhan suppose that Melania Trump could have offered up “an expression of empathy” through her clothing while walking towards an airplane? Perhaps wearing something of this nature would have been sufficient?

Would Givhan have preferred that Melania also give a speech as she stepped onto the tarmac? Does Givhan think that empathy and fashion are mutually exclusive? Did it not ever occur to Givhan that Melania might get into something more comfortable while on the airplane (she’s changed on airplanes before, by the way, and since even I know that, I’d expect the fashion editor Givhan to know it)? Does she think that Melania will go mum once in Texas and fail to express empathy through her words and interactions with victims or officials? Does she think that Melania might indeed conjure up some empathy later in the visit, but that her stilettos (and hat) have canceled out any empathy she might show during her time there, and branded it preemptively as false?

74 Responses to “Stilettogate”

  1. Jayne Says:

    Plus, I have a sneaking suspicion that if a leftist FLOTUS had turned out in similar togs and shoes the egregious Givhan would have sung a tune more laudatory.

    I didn’t see any reason for FLOTUS to go to Texas, either. But, I don’t feel bad that she went, and I thought she dressed and looked great. Her style seems more elegant. I can’t see any grounds for her simple, elegant choice of outfit to be slammed. Sheesh, some bitter people.

    Good analysis, Neo.

  2. Irv Says:

    I firmly believe that this article by Carolyn Glick tells you everything you need to know about how Trump and everyone around him is being treated. It’s one of her best. The last paragraph states Trump supporters’ position perfectly I think.

  3. Michael Says:

    Personally, I hope the next time she appears in public she wears stripper heals, I have reached the point where I no longer wish to see left wing heads explode – I want to see heart attacks.

  4. Cappy Says:

    Can it get dumber? That’s not a challenge!

  5. Dave Says:

    are those Red Wing Boots Trump was wearing? Americans have no idea how popular made in usa redne*k brands are in Asia, New Balance, Red Wing, Carhartt, dickies…

  6. Romey Says:

    These leftist clowns would criticize anything named Trump says, does, wears, etc. The females are flat out jealous of such a beautiful woman who acts like so gracious. They are too used to trying to butter up a FLOTUS who has a butt two axe handles wide.

  7. Tuvea Says:

    Leftists, and their propagandists in academia and the media, know that they lose to President Trump when they discuss actual issues.

    So they make up things and chatter about appearances rather than cover anything of substance.

    Low information voters – aka democrats – being unable to think for themselves, are easily convinced that these things are ‘news’.

  8. Julia Says:

    TDS has now expanded to all parts of society. Anyone to the right of Pelosi is evil. Attacking FLOTUS for her clothing choices is absurd.

    It was bad enough when people insulted Michelle O for her clothing, but it was more along the lines of ‘look how bad she dresses’ and it wasn’t all the time because she could really hit it out of the park at times.

    And really, most critics didn’t the WaPo as a perch from which to sing.

    Similar to the whole dust up about Joel Osteen. I’m a serious critic of the Prosperity Gospel (from a purely theological perspective) and those who preach it, but the attacks on him for the shelter issue are pretty flimsy. I did read somewhere that you can’t just designate yourself a shelter unless okayed by FEMA. Even if not accurate, the whole thing is ridiculous and just an attempt to attack and smear.

  9. Dave Says:

    They look down on Melania because they think she is a gold digger trophy wife and to be honest they are not entirely wrong on that.

  10. AesopFan Says:

    Julia Says:
    August 30th, 2017 at 11:15 am
    TDS has now expanded to all parts of society. Anyone to the right of Pelosi is evil. Attacking FLOTUS for her clothing choices is absurd.
    * * *
    Pelosi may have lost her place as a book-mark.

  11. Dave Says:

    However, they are guilty of being hypocrite because if you openly criticize any woman on the left for being a self objectifying shallow gold digging trophy wife you will be in trouble

  12. DNW Says:

    That is how the brains of the people we call progressives, work; or don’t work.

    Man or woman or other, these hell bound miscreants are not worth the costly burden their neuroses and needy collectivist minds impose on anyone coming into contact with them..

  13. Ray Says:

    When I was in college I knew an absolutely gorgeous brunette freshman. She told me the other girls couldn’t wait to stab her in the back. I am not surprised by this treatment.

  14. arfldgrs Says:

    Only women go THAT low in meaningless conversation as hearing or connecting for them doesnt matter on content..

    only women can raise meaningless to a political criticality of puerile pudendidic jealousy masquerading as social conciousness.

    dont believe me?

    men dont have relationships with their underwear..
    can you imagine going out to buy a miracle jock strap?

    nope. why?
    cause of the famous poster!
    i have tits, give me free stuff..
    THATS the miracle…

    i have nuts give me free stuff wont fly
    so men dont have mythical magical relationships cause theri clothing doesnt change economics for them and others and doesnt score free stuff or get out of tickets and so on.

    when that happens, we might be closer to equal..
    (dont hold your breath)

  15. arfldgrs Says:

    in fairness…
    i know Robin Givhan…

  16. arfldgrs Says:

    go back to the quote by the convicted sociopath i gave you all..

    the person said that they love the way a victim tries to grasp some thread for escape and follow ideas and things under some rules that he removed..

    that is, watching them flail around as if the point is valid and there is an escape was entertaining when there was no escape… the worm then turns.

    in this case, there was no valid answer, the whole game is that you and they assume there is, so you think that there is a right and a wrong…

    but in this game, everything is wrong, nothing is right EVER

    if she didnt wear shoes of that type, they would angle it against whatever she did wear or switch

    if she went naked and twerked the pilot she would be a horror of privellege not liberated like miliey cirus.

    if she stayed that would be bad
    she went so that was bad

    takes a long time for a normal person to realize that they are in a game in which the game is not being played and that there is a two headed coin involved. eh?

    mosts desire to be valid, follow social rules and so on, forbids them from taking the proper point with such.

  17. Oldflyer Says:

    I wonder if Obamacare covers TDS? It appears to have become a full blown psychosis.

    Can you imagine the hysteria if FLOTUS had not gone to Houston? Aloof. Uncaring. Self-absorbed.

    Dave, I don’t know where you are coming from with your own snark. Gold digger? Personally, I am very pleased that the U.S. is represented by a beautiful woman with a superb sense of style. It is a plus that when she chooses to speak on our behalf, she also does that stylishly and graciously. I will always measure any FLOTUS against the standard of Laura Bush, which may be unfair; but, Melania Trump holds her own by comparison to most.

  18. Esther Says:

    Purge inequality! Tear down ‘gold digging sluts’ and racist bronze statues.

  19. Julie near Chicago Says:

    It would be nice if persons attempting to use the English language were to cure their ignorance of same, at the very least to the extent of learning the difference between the meaning of the words “empathy” and “sympathy.”

    Constant misuse of words is a great barrier both to the clear communication of thought and to clear thought itself.

  20. Susanamantha Says:

    Isn’t Robin Givhan the jewel that gave us the totally unnecessary and snarky criticism of Justice Roberts’ children’s outfits worn during the swearing in ceremony? I noted to myself that the wee Roberts wore nearly exactly the type of clothing often worn by Caroline and John Kennedy Jr. Of course, Ms Givhan may be too young to have witnessed those “atrocities”.

  21. Irv Says:

    Wow, I’m shocked by the amount of female derangement syndrome displayed by some of the posters. Before you post some of you need to just close your eyes and think ‘would I be saying this about a male?’

  22. Susanamantha Says:

    Irv –

    If Donald Trump wore those heels, you bet.

  23. Paul in Boston Says:

    “If Donald Trump wore those heels, you bet.”

    Made my day. Thank you!

  24. Irv Says:


  25. T Says:

    “They look down on Melania because they think she is a gold digger trophy wife and to be honest they are not entirely wrong on that.” [Dave @ 11:25]

    Your evidence and argument to support this opinion is . . .? I’ll wait.

  26. T Says:

    ““If Donald Trump wore those heels, you bet.”

    Don’t joke! IMO he has to cojones to do exactly that.

  27. Dave Says:

    Do you think Melania would have married Donald Trump if he wasn’t a billionaire? A beautiful young super model marrying a super rich and powerful man twice her age to many people is the very definition of a gold digger. That might not be her intention, she might have married Donald even if he had not a dime to his name but it is perfectly acceptable and normal for people to assume that under the circumstances around their marriage. On the other hand, is Melania a trophy wife to Trump? lets say that he would probably not have married her if Melania looked like Rosie O’Donnell or twice the age Melania was.

  28. T Says:

    “Do you think . . .?” “Lets [sic] say . . .”
    [Dave @ 3:25]

    With such a factual and evidentiary platform you could be a climate scientist.

  29. steve walsh Says:

    I’m glad you posted this but I refuse to get worked up about people like Givhan being outraged by such superficial concerns. Of course, Superficial Concern is Givhan’s beat, right?

  30. Dave Says:

    Denying the fact despite the obvious evidence just because someone is on your side you might as well be a liberal.

  31. T Says:

    I’ve denied nothing or claimed nothing. All I’m asking for is “the obvious evidence” as you call it which you fail, once again, to provide. You just spout your own claptrap opinion and conjecture.

  32. Dave Says:

    The word gold digger should be deleted from the English language if the burden of proof to use this word on someone is to have tangible evidence proving someone married a rich person without any intention to profit from the marriage, proof like that will never exist. gold digger is an opinionated term, circumstantial evidence is that Melania married someone rich and famous while old enough to be his dad, and profited heavily from the marriage, what more evidence do you need?

  33. T Says:

    “Gold digger” is the term you introduced and used, yet now, in contradiction you call for it to be “deleted from the English language.”

    “. . . Melania married someone rich and famous while old enough to be his dad, and profited heavily from the marriage. . . .”

    You know she profited how exactly? Have you read their pre-nuptial agreement? Does one exist? Do you profess to know anything about their personal or economic relationship? You keep citing your opinion as though it were a fact. Do you know the difference?

    Sounds to me as though you’re the one who’s envious here (of her station in life). Perhaps it’s you who might as well be a liberal.

    BTW I”m still waiting for your evidence as opposed to your “evidence.”

  34. Dave Says:

    I am done with this futile discussion, just want to ask one last thing. Melania’s personal net worth is estimated at 50 millions, think she would have earned that kind of money if she didn’t marry Trump? Even if she had earned every single dime of it with her own businesses it was Trump’s connections or creditlines from banks that made it possible.

  35. Mr. Frank Says:

    My first reaction to this post was Ms. Givhan must be really ugly to be so petty. I was right.

  36. neo-neocon Says:

    T; Dave:

    I think it’s obvious on the face of it that Melania has profited financially whatever their pre-nup might be. The lifestyle she lives as Trump’s wife must involve a great deal more money than she made alone, even if she was a successful model.

    But that doesn’t tell us what her motives were for marrying him. Maybe they were mostly pecuniary, maybe they were somewhat pecuniary, maybe if he was a carpenter and she a lady she would have married him anyway.

    We can’t know. But I think that in general, money and power are usually aphrodisiacs, especially when women are evaluating male prospects for marriage. This doesn’t make her a gold-digger, even if money somewhat entered into it. She might have succumbed to his other charms (he does have them, although he’s not my cup of tea), and money may have just been the icing on the cake.

  37. Montage Says:

    True, faux outrage. But no doubt if Hillary was president and she went down to Texas and someone in her camp [her daughter perhaps] wore heels the conservatives would be outraged. Neither side has a monopoly on faux outrage.

    Trump is criticized for going to Texas just as surely as if he chose not to go for a few more days. Obama was criticized for the same kind of thing. So essentially this is not news at all. Both sides love to hate.

    I dislike Trump but I have no criticism on his Texas trip. He did what he was supposed to do as president.

    What I will say is that perception is king in the media and among partisan folks. So Melania wearing heels looks bad to some. Just like Trump [or Obama] playing golf looks bad to some. [The hypocrisy of both conservatives and liberals on such issues bothers me much more].

  38. T Says:

    This discussion was hardly futile. My purpose was to make it clear that “Dave” was voicing pure opinion as fact, There are many conclusions that we can draw, but none that are evinced by hard facts. Such facts may exist, but are unknown to us.

    Melania Knauss was a successful model and (if memory serves me correctly) a successful businesswoman in her own right. It was “Dave” who jumped to the conclusion that she was a “gold digger” with only his own opinion as his source. That’s fine. “Dave” is entitled to his own opinion; he’s not entitled, however to pass it off as if it were fact without being challenged. I simply asked for evidence, he only provided more opinion. “Dave” would argue that simple observation makes the situation clear; I would argue that simple observation also tells us that it is the sun which moves around the earth.

    “Dave” descends into the simple stereotyping that leftists use as a staple of life: All Republicans are racist; all Black Americans are victimized; all men are rapists; all women who marry wealthy men are golddiggers.

    For my opinion (although no one asked), gold diggers rarely show the class and character that this woman has shown in her short time as FLOTUS.

    “Dave,” don’t allow your own envy to lead you to quick and superficial judgement.

  39. T Says:

    Oh! For the record, just one last comment:

    ” Melania’s personal net worth is estimated at 50 millions [sic], think she would have earned that kind of money if she didn’t marry Trump? Even if she had earned every single dime of it with her own businesses it was Trump’s connections or creditlines from banks that made it possible.” [Dave @ 4:38]

    By Dave’s own words, he describes the working of a successful businesswoman using her network to succeed; hardly the mark of a “gold digger.” So all successful women are golddiggeers? To refer to her as s is nothing more than hypocrisy and envy.

  40. T Says:

    “To refer to her as such . . . .”

  41. Dave Says:

    a successful businesswoman and gold digger are not mutually exclusive terms, a successful businesswoman can be a gold digger. how did Melania gain the network to succeed as a successful businesswoman? by using her youth and beauty to marry a rich old man to gain access to his connections. just because someone became a successful businesswoman after she gold digged her way to the upper class doesn’t make her less a gold digger.

  42. Mac Says:

    “Givhan’s niche is the intersection of fashion and culture and politics”

    Sounds like a description of a media birdbrain.

  43. neo-neocon Says:


    Did you read this comment of mine?

  44. Frog Says:

    Mac: “intersection” is a BIIG word in academia these days. It appears these people are not able to follow a single road, which even a roadrunner (bird with a brain) could do, but must crash into an intersection.

  45. Ira Says:

    I think liberals are only happy with hashtag responses by first ladies. See,

  46. LAG Says:

    “an empty artifact full of shoes and frocks, signifying nothing”

    Sounds like the very definition of fashion to me.

  47. Irv Says:

    Thinking that you know what’s in another person’s mind without them telling you is a bad habit. This is especially true when you ascribe evil or base motivations to a person when there are other plausible motivations.

    I see this done against Trump, anyone who supports him and conservatives quite often; most often by the left.

    I don’t like it when they do it and it’s no better when others do it. How about if we evaluate people’s actions without claiming to know what’s in their minds and hearts.

    To coin a phrase “Judge not lest you be judged” (and you can quote me on that) should apply when judging people rather than actions. (end of sermon)

  48. AMartel Says:

    Givhan is a political harpy who uses her position as a “fashion reporter” to bolster her friends, the leftists, and run down her enemies, everyone else. Also, her writing style is obtuse and her fashion commentary is without nuance or substance. Basically, she’s crap at her ostensible job but that doesn’t matter because her real job is running down political enemies of the state.

  49. AMartel Says:

    Is there any substantive difference between “gold digger” Melania and Hillary Clinton?
    -Both are more wealthy than before their marriages due to the successes of the men they married.
    -Both furthered their own personal careers by proximity to power.
    -Neither has made any noteworthy contribution to American politics.

    Melania is a LOT better looking but Hillary does have a LOT of sensible shoes.

  50. T Says:


    There is nothing more certain than an uninformed mind.

  51. TommyJay Says:

    I caught the Trumps deplaning from Airforce 1 live on the tube. My first thought was “who’s that 25 yr. old supermodel with Trump?” Then I saw a close up of the FLOTUS cap. That’s Melania?? And she’s wearing a FLOTUS cap? That’s a first isn’t it? (Not sure.)

    I’ll never complain about a woman looking too fabulous.

    Neo’s quotes “she looked dressed to view a natural disaster from a distance, from on high, not up close.” This is an old meme from hurricane Katrina.

    I occurs to me that it is not too difficult to get inside the psyche of the Democrat borg, largely because they keep on recycling these memes that have worked for them in the past.

    An example is the Obama stimulus program was named the National Recovery Act or NRA. This was also the name of FDR’s Depression era economic program. No original thinking required.

    There is a very musically good R&B song about Katrina by Sonny Landreth and Mark Knopfler called “Blue Tarp Blues.” Here are a few lines.

    Air Force One had a heck of a view
    Air Force One had a heck of a view
    Looking down on the patchwork of the blue tarp blues.

    There’s a crack in the ceiling and the system too
    We ain’t got no coverage of the blue tarp blues.

  52. Ralph Kinney Bennett Says:

    Good title, Neo. But really. All this fuss over a hit piece by an affirmative action hire at a Democrat Party house organ?

  53. Dave Says:

    what exactly do you try to prove by constantly attacking my Intelligence in instead of Forming an compelling argument to counter my assessment that Melanie is a gold digger? What exactly is the difference between discrediting my argument by calling me names from liberals trying to shut down dialogues by calling conservatives racist. The facts are undisputed, Melanie was a young social climber with an humble background, marrying a rich old guy to climb to the upper class, that is the very definition of a gold digger in any societies. changing the definition of the word to whitewash a persons background just because she is on your side for being the wife of the politician you supported doesn’t make you more informed, it make you dishonest.

  54. Dave Says:

    Is Julia Roberts’ character in pretty woman a gold digger? Just because she loves Richard Gere’s character in the end of the movie doesn’t change the fact that she is a gold digger.

  55. AesopFan Says:

    Ralph Kinney Bennett Says:
    August 30th, 2017 at 9:52 pm
    Good title, Neo. But really. All this fuss over a hit piece by an affirmative action hire at a Democrat Party house organ?
    * * *
    Thread winner.

    arfldgrs Says:
    August 30th, 2017 at 12:07 pm
    in fairness…
    i know Robin Givhan…

    * * *
    Now, that’s interesting. In what context?
    (PS thanks, in your other postings, for keeping in remembrance the roots of the Left; so much of that I never knew, although always felt there must be something behind their current instantiation.)

    Thanks for the link to Hardin’s song; I never heard him sing it, but it has always been one of my favorites.
    However, a commenter at that site has this right:

    7 months ago
    You would probably be banned from most college campuses today just for singing a song like this.

  56. AesopFan Says:

    We need some more music.

    Busby Berkeley’s “The Shadow Waltz” from Gold Diggers Of 1933 — (c) Warner Brothers

    “dancing on high heels, and backwards…”

  57. AesopFan Says:

    I didn’t know that last song (no surprise) but this one was very familiar, probably from fifties cartoons.

    Gold Diggers 1933 We’re In The Money

    The middle section of the song is ..different.
    Wish the costumes were in color, though.

  58. Dave Says:

    Do me a favor, give me an example of someone who is a gold digger to you and explain to me how Melanie is different.

  59. T Says:


    Constantly attacking your intelligence? You make a claim and support it with unsubstantiated opinion. When I ask for facts, you offer more opinion as if you have no conception of the difference between opinion and fact.

    As for why I do not form a counter argument, well, it’s not my argument to make. You made the gratuitous claim, you are the plaintiff; prove your point with facts which is what I asked you initially to do; I’m still waiting.

    Even Neo entered the conversation first with an observation and then questioning whether or not you even bothered to read her comment.

    “The facts are undisputed . . . .” you have provided no facts; none, nada. You simply keep regurgitating bilious opinion.

    “Melanie [sic] was a young social climber with an humble background . . . .” Fact? Any woman who comes from a humble background is a social climber?

    “marrying a rich old guy to climb to the upper class . . .” You know this how? Have you spoken to her? Has she admitted it publicly? Have your read her diary? (see Neo’s comment at 4:48).

    “that is the very definition of a gold digger in any societies. [sic]” So you can speak for all societies? You generalize from your own opinion, have yet to master your mother tongue and yet you claim the wisdom to speak for all societies?

    “[sic] changing the definition of the word to whitewash a persons background just because she is on your side for being the wife of the politician you supported doesn’t make you more informed, it make you dishonest.” Projection much! I whitewash nothing. I ask you to factually make your point. You fail with each additional comment.

    Just what has this woman done publicly, or to you personally, to make her a target of your unprovoked and intemperate disdain? She’s married to a president you abhor? I repeat . . . projection much!

    Attack your intelligence? No rational thought in these emotive mean-tempered visceral posts to attack.

  60. T Says:

    “Do me a favor, give me an example of someone who is a gold digger to you and explain to me how Melanie [sic] is different.” {dave @ 11:10]

    “. . . it’s not my argument to make. You made the gratuitous claim, you are the plaintiff; prove your point with facts which is what I asked you initially to do; I’m still waiting.” [T @ 11:10]

    What credibility do you think you have here; you can’t even get the woman’s name right.

  61. Irene Says:

    Dave, I think you’ve got the hots for Melania. No other explanation for your over the top attacks.

  62. T Says:



  63. Dave Says:

    How successful was malenia’s modelling career? It is your burden to provide proof to back up your “Melanie had a successful modelling career claim” any number on how much she had made as a model throughout her career? It is also your burden to prove that I was making a false claim that she is a gold digger by providing proof that the 50 million she has now was made on her own. She was making 20000 for 10 jobs in 7 weeks in 1995. At most she was making 200,000 a year, on the same pace she would be making 2 million in ten years. i have presented my circumstantial evidence: Melanie was a young woman working in one of the most artificial industry, was a middle of the road talent who was no where close to cindy Crawford’s level while having really short shell life, coming from an war ridden country right after the recent collapse of Soviet Union, who was willing to pose nude for money, marrying a notorious over the hill playboy who was recently separated from his second wife while being old enough to be his father along with a history of a string of female companions that rival Hugh hefner, and magically went from making 200 grand a year to having a net worth of 50 million. I don’t have to prove nothing, the facts all point to the fact that Melanie matches the description of a typical gold digger, you are the one who is making an outlandish claim that a woman who has demonstrated all the traits of a typical gold digger is not a gold digger, you are the one who needs to rebut by proving melania loves trump (which is not helped by the number of times she has publicly shrugged him or refusing to hold his hands) and married him purely out of love.

    I was spelling her name correctly, the iPad with its buggy spelling check was auto correcting it into something else, don’t blame me, blame apple.

  64. Dave Says:

    It was a ridiculous accusation from T that I was stating that melania is a gold digger as a fact without proof. Gold digger is a subjective term, any claim used with a subjective term is automatically an opinion, it stupid to ask anyone to provide concrete evidence to back an opinion. You have to first prove there is a substantial way to prove anyone to be a gold digger before you can ask me to prove if melania is a gold digger. Anna Nicole smith is the most well known gold digger, even proving she was a gold digger was impossible under T’s standards, every piece of evidence anyone can provide T will just dismiss it by saying “do you have any evidence that she didn’t love the old guy”

  65. Dave Says:

    No it is T who has the hot for melania to go this far to defend that gold digger.

  66. Dave Says:

    It is your burden to provide a provable sets of criteria of what constitutes being a gold digger and a precedent of someone who is a gold digger based on your standards, otherwise you are just trying to make me prove a crime that is without definition.

  67. OldTexan Says:

    Wow, I know for sure ‘Gold Diggers’ were people who went to California in 1849. Meanwhile Houston is still having huge problems, probably more important than a pretty tall lady’s footwear.

  68. T Says:

    “The facts are undisputed . . .” [Dave @10:05 am]

    ” I don’t have to prove nothing, the facts all point to the fact that Melanie matches the description of a typical gold digger. . .” [Dave @1:47am]

    “Gold digger is a subjective term, any claim used with a subjective term is automatically an opinion, it stupid to ask anyone to provide concrete evidence to back an opinion.” [Dave @2:01 am]

    “My purpose was to make it clear that “Dave” was voicing pure opinion as fact” [T @ 5:09]


  69. Dave Says:

    Please list my exact wordings that I was voicing pure opinion as fact, it was your tiny little brain that was twisting my opinion as fact and spending whole evening beating up a straw man to virtue signal how righteous you are in my expense. anyone with half a function know any statement with the word gold digger is an opinion not a fact, there is no precise definition of gold digger is. You were doing exactly what CNN has been doing to Trump since the beginning of the election, twisting every opinion of Trump as him stating any sort of fact and accusing him of lying that way. Gold Digger is a subjective word, there is no definite meanings with the word, did I ask Amartel to provide proof that Hillary is also a gold digger? no why, because i am sensible enough to realize that Amartel was suggesting that Hillary is a gold digger too for the reason of staying with Bill after him being so unfaithful for so many years just keep to her source of power, the Clinton brand, intact. Gold Digger is a stretchy word, to me any unwealthy person marrying anyone rich and famous is a gold digger, John Kerry is a gold digger to me.

  70. Dave Says:

    Sorry T for insulting you, Sorry Melania for calling for you a gold digger. Melania you are an intelligent and successfully lady who took advantage of every opportunity that came your way and your successes are well earned and deserved. Everything I wrote was based on my tiny little insignificant brain and its misinterpretation of the word gold digger.

  71. BrianE Says:

    She’s not a gold digger. She’s a trophy wife. 🙂

  72. Tatterdemalian Says:

    Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and
    liberals gotta move the goalposts.

  73. n.n Says:

    Well, the boys seeking attention would pull her ponytail, and, apparently, the transgender/homosexual females mock her shows. The first instance is kind of cute, but the second is weird and even creepy (as in progressive or monotonic).

  74. Ymar Sakar Says:

    You just spout your own claptrap opinion and conjecture.

    Are Alt Right consumers supposed to be the content producers now?

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