September 16th, 2017

I see that Fox News…

has noticed the red-pill political changer phenomenon I wrote about a couple of weeks ago.

Interesting. Seems to be a trend that’s getting some notice.

[Hat tip: Ace.]

18 Responses to “I see that Fox News…”

  1. vanderleun Says:

    “The cake is a lie.”

  2. Harry the Extremist Says:

    Quite all over youtube stemming from a documentary film called “The Red Pill” written by Cassie Jaye, a woman who is herself a liberal now being ostracized for making an honest film.

  3. Harry the Extremist Says:

    Sorry, looks like all I posted above was included in your link as well as an explanation as to why the media and the democrats are going to continue to be surprised at election results going forwards…

  4. J.J. Says:

    Could it be that the progressives have finally gone too far? When their actions and claims are so “far out” (as John Denver was wont to say) that it suddenly becomes clear to people, who use reason rather than feelings to guide them, that the progressives are aiming for tyranny. If so, hurrah!

    Possibly many more “changers” coming down the pike. A result much to be desired. And I don’t care what color the pill is, as long as it works.

  5. Richard Aubrey Says:

    Presumably, some of the changers have considered the marrano strategy. There may well be more than we know.

  6. AesopFan Says:

    The surge in red-pilling may be due in part to the realization that so much of what appears in the news is, um, fake.
    Like this story, which lasted all of 2 days (who are all these anonymous people, by the way, and why are there so many of them? Unless the deniers are the ones lying, of course).

    https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/exclusive-gen-mcmaster-sparked-row-israeli-delegation-white-house-meeting-hezbollah/

    “Hezbollah has been a U.S.-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization since 1997. However, National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster reportedly brought NSC Senior Director on Counter-Terrorism Mustafa Javed Ali to the White House meeting with Israel. Ali, a McMaster appointee, is described by a senior administration source as being “opposed to Hezbollah’s designation as a terrorist organization.”

    What then transpired at the meeting has been confirmed to PJ Media by several administration sources, by members of non-governmental organizations involved in national security, and by a source within the Israeli government.

    The Israeli delegation demanded that Mustafa Javed Ali leave the room.

    This demand was made despite the clear likelihood that Ali would later be privy to the meeting’s materials and discussion. As such, sources speculated that Israel intended the demand to serve as a message to President Trump that McMaster’s behavior has constituted a subversion of Trump’s stated Middle East policy.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.812462?=&ts=_1505437625154

    “White House, Israeli Embassy Strongly Deny Report McMaster Yelled at Israeli Officials
    The apparently false report on a right-wing website seems like an attempt to renew a campaign against the national security adviser”

    Sad to see right-wingers emulating the left-winger media, though I think this cartoon has a point:

    http://e.lvme.me/5yq5e1t.jpg

    (Right wing, Left wing: same bird)

  7. huxley Says:

    I often read in the current campus protest stories that many students may be sympathetic to progressivism but they don’t like the demos or buy the more extreme SJW positions.

    I suspect the left has overreached. This isn’t the 2000s when they were able to flip the country against Bush 43 with outrage.

  8. Ymar Sakar Says:

    https://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/factions-in-the-alt-right/

    This OP lines up well with what my current research on the Alt Right outputs.

  9. Ymar Sakar Says:

    The Left doesn’t need to win, if the goal of the Deep State is to merely have the country destroy itself.

    The Leftist alliance themselves are merely cannonfodder for more powerful factions. And the SJWs are just the Left’s cannon fodder for the frontline, like zombies.

    This is an onion rather than a simplistic black vs white scenario.

  10. Ymar Sakar Says:

    AesopFan Says:
    September 17th, 2017 at 12:00 am
    The surge in red-pilling may be due in part to the realization that so much of what appears in the news is, um, fake.

    The youths after my generation, would not be so much up in arms if it was just the news. After all, the US has been lied to by Cronkite 3 network news for how long… so long as the BS is profitable and packaged nicely, Americans didn’t really care.

    What became the weather on the camel’s back was the culture wars.

  11. AesopFan Says:

    Ymar Sakar Says:
    September 17th, 2017 at 7:49 pm

    * *
    I think Americans do care, but they just didn’t know how much lying they got on the news: so few alternative sources, and most of them were “suspect” because they weren’t The Press, The White House, or The College Prof.

  12. huxley Says:

    Given the number of Obama voters who went for Trump in 2016 plus the continuous shellacking Democrats took in down-ticket races during the Obama years, I’d say, Jerry Lee Lewis style, “There’s a whole lotta red-pillin’ goin’ on.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7SBF-35Es

  13. Ymar Sakar Says:

    I think Americans do care, but they just didn’t know how much lying they got on the news:

    They cared enough to complain about it, yes. I have heard many of these complaints over the years. What they don’t do is to destroy the enemy. They complain about media bias while using the media. They complain about the culture wars, by giving Hollywood money and then complaining about Hollywood poison.

    Humans only do things in an organized fashion if there is leadership. No leaders, and it is just a bunch of random mobs.

    If people really cared about an issue, they would kill the enemy. But they weren’t killing the enemy, just complaining about media bias in Iraq.

    America’s problem isn’t the lack of sources of information. America’s problem is that people are used to gatekeepers telling them what is going on, rather than learning how to connect the dots themselves. It’s similar to religious people who have to quote various little verses of the bible as if it was their raistron de etre and vocabulary databank. They can’t talk about the stories, narration, and concepts in their worn words, they have to copy one liners out of context.

    The media is their context. Without the media, they would not be objective or neutral, but just out of touch.

  14. Dave Says:

    I am trying to remember a term mentioned by someone here that basically describes the phenomenon that the left uses your denial to prove that the accusation they made against you was right.

  15. AesopFan Says:

    Dave Says:
    September 18th, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    * *

    Kafkatrapping.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrapping
    A sophistical and unfalsifiable form of argument that attempts to overcome an opponent by inducing a sense of guilt and using the opponent’s denial of guilt as further evidence of guilt.

  16. AesopFan Says:

    Ymar Sakar Says:
    September 18th, 2017 at 6:41 am
    I think Americans do care, but they just didn’t know how much lying they got on the news:

    They cared enough to complain about it, yes. I have heard many of these complaints over the years. What they don’t do is to destroy the enemy. They complain about media bias while using the media. They complain about the culture wars, by giving Hollywood money and then complaining about Hollywood poison.
    * *
    Some knew; most didn’t.
    It only becomes really clear after (sometimes, long after) the liars have moved on to the next cause (see Neo’s conversion story).
    However, I think you are correct that those who DO know don’t push back hard enough.

    Of course, when the media that would (supposedly) publish said rebuttals is abetting the liars, that is hard to do effectively.
    Looking at the posts and comments on the Emmys, maybe some of that is changing.

    (There’s also a connection here with today’s post on the “slap in the face leftist assumption” because none of us who have experienced it have the guts (“bad manners”) to stand up and walk out. That’s where the Left has a much more effective strategy. We may hate the ideological thrust of their protests, but they do get heard.)

  17. Ymar Sakar Says:

    Of course, when the media that would (supposedly) publish said rebuttals is abetting the liars, that is hard to do effectively.

    That was what Breitbart, the person, tried to do. To break into the Alt Media by creating his own networks.

    Of course, he died, and the Alt Right just treats Breitbart the way the Left treats NYTimes. As another gatekeeper.

    Americans, of all generations, treated the journalists as a 4th or 5th branch of the government. They are not a branch of the government, they don’t use their powers to hold anybody in gov accountable.

    The idea of the American people that reporters would get to ask the President questions, and that they would serve as intercessors and gatekeepers between the people and the government, was quite foolish.

    Even the expectation that there is a “rebuttal” of some kind that will come from the media, is incorrect. One should have zero expectations out of them. It would be better to expect Soros to ride in and report on American news, than it would be to expect American journalists to do so. Of course, Soros already did that, he just didn’t tell people.

    There’s also a connection here with today’s post on the “slap in the face leftist assumption” because none of us who have experienced it have the guts (“bad manners”) to stand up and walk out.

    Walking out or ridiculing their behavior is not all that hard. At least for those of us that have programmed out own Rules of Engagement.

  18. Ymar Sakar Says:

    Looking at the posts and comments on the Emmys, maybe some of that is changing.

    I won’t hold my breath. My opinion of average humans isn’t all that high.

    Ever since 2007, I would come browse the online blogs and comments, to answer the question I asked myself “has Americans woken up yet”. And every year, the answer is no.

    As for 2015, 2016, and the Red Pill Alt Right movements… that is like waking up while still sleep walking. It is not full awake. They don’t know even half the things I know.

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