October 9th, 2017

The end of ISIS?

You’d think this might be even bigger news than it seems to be so far:

Nearly a thousand Islamic State fighters have surrendered to Kurdish forces after the terror group lost its last major city in Iraq, The New York Times reports.

Many of the dejected fighters reportedly have soiled themselves and await interrogation and trial by Kurdish authorities. The mass surrender of the terrorist group is particularly unusual for ISIS, who’ve made a point of fighting to the very last man. In many cases the group made the last days of battle painful for the opposing force by deploying waves of suicide bombers.

One fighter recalled to TheNYT that the ISIS governor of the town of Hawija himself gave the order to surrender in mass. “I believe if the governors are telling us to surrender, it really means that this is the end,” he lamented.

“The speed at which the enemy gave up surprised me,” Operation Inherent Resolve commander Lt. Gen. Paul Funk told USATODAY after the battle. “Their leaders are abandoning them.”

The situation may have reached a tipping point. Part of the huge draw of ISIS was that its fighters were seen as powerful winners. Once they start losing, and the losing has gone on and on, their aura of invincibility is gone along with a great deal of their dubious and bloodthirsty appeal. Who wants to die for a bunch of losers? Who wants the flowing rivers of blood to be their own?

Of course, this doesn’t mean ISIS is gone for good. Terror networks have a habit of reconstituting themselves in different form, like that guy in “The Terminator.” Which guy? You know, this guy:

14 Responses to “The end of ISIS?”

  1. Michael Says:

    The will of allah I’m sure.

  2. DNW Says:

    I’m surprised they are allowed to surrender.

    The Kurds must be very humane.

    Not Jacksonians …

  3. ken Says:

    Trojan horses?

  4. arfldgrs Says:

    You cant decide if your goinna beat anything if you cant assess what you have truthfully… if half your assesment is positivism feminism and so on… well, how ya gonna know?

    see below

    Witness this Russian tactical exercise that is nothing short of insane. That’s a gun range training video like no other! These soldiers are actually firing live ammunition at each other.

    http://americanshootingjournal.com/check-out-this-crazy-russian-tactical-gun-shoot/

    On the other side of the coin for those that have been exposed to this type of training may see this as just another level of confidence in regards to gun safety. I can attest for this while with a member of a QRF (Quick Reaction Force) team stationed in Korea many moons ago. We were fortunate to have a joint training with the Korean Anti-Terrorist team. During the live fire drill in the shoot house, they were shooting at targets where there were live people standing, sitting next to dummy targets.

    THis and ISIS, and others are what we are up against.

    In 2007, Kingsley Browne gathered the evidence in a clear and concise book, Co-ed Combat: The New Evidence That Women Shouldn’t Fight the Nation’s Wars.

    Take a look how they sell it…
    even if she cant do it, they are gonna claim they can
    Sister Soldiers: Women Ready for Frontline Combat?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=NBtBFiaJUY4

    [but why would anyone listen to Fallon Fox?]

    The army’s standard fragmentation grenade has a blast radius of 15 meters. Infantrymen are required to demonstrate the ability to throw a grenade 35 meters; military women, only 25 meters. In practice, many military women cannot throw even that far.
    Sergeant Leigh Ann Hester and squad leader Timothy Nein – Hester gave her grenade to Nein because he “had the better arm.” She did, however, throw one about fifteen yards, which, depending upon cover, may be a little close for comfort If both members of the pair are women, their ability to throw a grenade where it is needed will be substantially limited.
    [Great they will kill themselves too]

    Women react to threat very differently from men.

    Many young men will risk death rather than be seen by their peers to flinch from a fight. Women’s courage takes very different forms.
    During the 1989 invasion of Panama,
    two female truck drivers had tearfully refused to drive troops to the scene of fighting, prompting an Army investigation
    the Army announced that the women had acted appropriately. According to Army spokesmen, the two women were “exhausted” after driving under fire for nine hours

    how nice

    According to officers of the infantry battalion whose soldiers were supposed to be transported, however, the women had not been driving under fire for nine hours. They had come under fire briefly in the first hour of the invasion and then spent eight hours waiting for their next mission, at one point having to be rousted from their barracks and made to stay with the trucks. … [Quoting another author, Browne adds] “The men at the scene had no doubt but that the women were afraid, not tired.”

    dependable

  5. arfldgrs Says:

    The Army, Browne reports, maintains an unofficial policy whereby women – but not men – showers in the field every 72 hours.

    The Army, Browne reports, maintains an unofficial policy whereby women – but not men – showers in the field every 72 hours. Military Sociologist Laura Miller

    “The majority of females I know are not soldiers. They are employed. Anything strenuous is avoided with a passion. I would hate to serve with them during combat! I would end up doing my job and 2/3 of theirs just to stay alive.”

    [similar in construction, but somewhat safer]

    a bitter military joke that true equality will arrive – not when women receive Medals of Honor (since it will be suspected that the standards were bent in their favor) – but when women “can be subject to a court-martial for cowardly conduct.”

    agreed

    [P]rostitution by female personnel appears to be a widespread phenomenon, although the Pentagon’s reticence on the subject makes it difficult to ascertain just how widespread. I have heard from numerous sources claiming personal knowledge (not as customers, they all assure me) of prostitution rings in the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines. I have heard it from officers who were responsible for discipline and from enlisted men who were aware of the women to go to.

    -=-=-=-=-

    on gender issues, the military seems to have decided that the desire of a relatively very small number of female officers to reach the highest levels of command trumps the necessities of national defense.

    -=-=-=-=-

    T]he measure of a leader lies not in the leader’s behavior but in the behavior of his subordinates. If potential followers will not follow a leader for whatever reason, the leader cannot be effective. Whether blame is assigned to the failed follower or the failed leader is immaterial. If the mission is not being accomplished, the unit is ineffective

    -=-=-=-=-

    [W]hat would happen if the United States had fifteen thousand sixty-year-old men in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of fifteen thousand women. If it did, many of these older men would undoubtedly behave bravely. Would these stories be persuasive evidence that the military should allow sixty-year-olds to enlist? Not at all. The relevant question is whether the sixty-year-old men are as effective in combat as twenty-year-old mean, and few would be (or be expected to be).

  6. arfldgrs Says:

    Co-ed Combat depicts a country that seems to have made up its collective mind that it need not worry about ever again fighting a major war against a capable enemy – A country so confident in its margin of superiority that it can afford deliberately to weaken its own military performance for reasons of pure ideology. And this time it is the so-called progressive side that treats facts as unwelcome intruders.

    and what ARE isis Tactics?
    The same tactics that caused the first crusade!!

    Other terror tactics include genocide, mass executions (including beheadings), psychological operations through sophisticated propaganda, widespread torture of prisoners, and organized sexual violence and slavery.

    and our policies will do what to put women there
    and that will do what to our ability to fight?

    It has reportedly become a recruiting technique to attract men from conservative Muslim societies, where dating and casual sex are not allowed / “These women have been treated like cattle … They have been subjected to physical and sexual violence, including systematic rape and sex slavery. They’ve been exposed in markets in Mosul and in Raqqa, Syria, carrying price tags.” [good thing that no one but white men hav slavery, right?]

    According to UN Reports the price list for IS sex slaves range from 40 to 160 US dollars. The younger the slave the more expensive. Girls and boys between the age 1–9 are referred to as the most expensive, with the cheapest being women between 40 and 50 years old

    Shortly after the death of US hostage Kayla Mueller was confirmed on 10 February 2015, several media outlets reported that the US intelligence community believed she may have been given as a wife to an ISIL fighte In August 2015 it was confirmed that she had been forced into marriage to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who raped her repeatedly The Mueller family was informed by the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi had sexually abused Ms. Mueller, and that Ms. Mueller had also been tortured Abu Sayyaf’s widow, Umm Sayyaf, confirmed that it was her husband who had been Mueller’s primary abuser

    and if you think they had a field day lying about Phuc, well

  7. Geoffrey Britain Says:

    Reports of ISIS’ death are greatly exaggerated. They’ve merely cut their losses and moved their focus to Western Europe, quietly organizing and building their strength. The million more ‘refugees’ Merkel and the EU are planning on accepting will prove useful in the coming intifada.

  8. Lizzy Says:

    Are we ignoring all of the ISIS fighters who have relocated to Europe? The daily barrage of “lone wolf” attacks – a stabbing here, a fire there, rapist over there, and car or truck driven into a crowd…and on and on. Not a coincidence that the vast majority of “refugees” landing in Europe are men on late teens to early thirties.

  9. neo-neocon Says:

    GB and Lizzy:

    That’s what the video is about.

  10. Ymar Sakar Says:

    The Jacksonians are not Andrew Jackson.

    http://96676180.weebly.com/william-weatherfords-surrender-speech.html

    They claim origin from that person, but they lack all of his virtues while still having his vices. That’s why they are Democrats. For most of the history of what people call the Jacksonian party, they were Democrats, misguided is the least of their problems. Mead, the guy that is known for coining or phrasing the term Jacksonian, voted for Hussein, twice.

    That’s a Democrat. Not an Andrew Jackson.

    This is has to do with people who think surrender is some kind of absolute policy for Andrew Jackson, and hence the Jacksonians.

  11. Cornhead Says:

    Military historian Victor Davis Hanson says that a war is not over until the enemy knows he is beaten. Maybe ISIS knows now.

  12. Ymar Sakar Says:

    The East have sex slaves. The West has sex dolls.

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/sex-doll-brothel-owner-says-visitors-have-disturbing-requests/

    The Glorious Future awaits…

    Also, if you are higher class like Hollywood or DC, you can import in your own child sex slaves and what not. Meanwhile, the vaunted 5th estate will protect you, or maybe you’ll get 12 months in jail for human sex slave trafficking like Epstein… but only if you are like Epstein.

  13. TommyJay Says:

    One of the things that surprised me about the rise of ISIS was all of the thrill killers and sexual predators they recruited. An article I read quoted someone as having said it was like Disneyland for criminals.

    What is not surprising is that losing militarily and losing big is really bad for recruitment, especially for those in the above category. No, no Obama and left said, we mustn’t antagonized them because it will be good for recruitment. That’s just another BS argument offered under the theory that any argument is better than no argument. In our sound bite political world, that theory is sadly true.

  14. neo-neocon Says:

    TommyJay:

    Sadistic political movements always attract “thrill killers and sexual predators.” The Nazis certainly did.

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