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  1. Neo: It really gives a person a deep sense of faith in the efficiency and competence of government and government officials.

    given the sarcasm, the ming buggering part is actually the opposite!! those who realize what the state actually is in terms of its abilities, may say that…

    but what really buggers the mind is for those who already have this unshakable faith, it wont shake it. NOTHING the state does can ever be seen as wrong, or not right (other than their own, even if it does right)

    and the WORST of them are the youngins raise dby the feminists and communsts teachers union… they cant think stright… they resort to yelling because once you go off the preformed arguments along the decorated paths that always curve to them to their solutions… they go bonkers…

    this is MOST evident in the video interviews by ex soviets, and certain pseudo pundits (i say pseudo cause the real ones are fake, and the fake ones are real, much like your peterson thing…)

    but as i said when it first came out… the issue wasnt what is even being said above. oh, i forgot my password. etc.. the issue is that the state, so sure in its infallibility, never created a proceedure for a what if that included the states falibility!!! ie. they cant make a plan for when the state fails, because that would imply that the state knows it can fail, which would admit such to followers the state says it cant fail on… love it…

    but how do you prove it wasnt intentional?
    you cant… just as john cleese lays out

    but there is also the idea of
    why isnt there a key with the send button?

    WHY?

    because there is no system!!!
    the public things of a SYSTEM. software, a monitor, some buttons, maybe a key

    but all it is is a tie in from a twitter account connected to a feed… ie. mickey mouse, rube goldberg, bubble gum and scotch tape (which sadly now is cultural appropriation of the tartan kilt for plastic tape).

    🙂

  2. So. Ige is 61, 10 years younger than Trump. Which of the two is showing real signs of dementia?

  3. ” . . .he did not know his Twitter account password.”

    So? Doesn’t he have assistants? What if he were hit by a car (or something) and wouldn’t have been able to get into his account anyway? Isn’t there a back up plan?

    This is starting (more like has been since the get-go) like they are lying about something. Like, I dunno, they faked the whole thing just to see how it would play out? And it didn’t make Trump look as bad as they planned and now they are in “spin mode.”

  4. Remember, these are the people that the Left holds out as the experts who should run our lives in the tiniest detail.

  5. It is not an explanation. He didn’t need his password for the initial warning to go out.

  6. First observation: Top Men!

    Second: Government is the word we use for the things we choose to do together.

    Last: Why is the governor of a state using Twitter to conduct his official duties?

  7. He wanted to use Twitter to countermand a Duck-and-Cover order? The same emergency broadcast system should be used for the Just Kidding (I mean, All Clear). The governor apparently wouldn’t have seen a Twitter message if somebody else had sent it!

    And, now, to the text of the alert itself. Who went to the trouble to type that up? When? (I doubt it is canned). With all of the lying and delaying, one wonders whether this were a social experiment, designed to gin up anti-nuke anti-Trump sentiment.

  8. Oh, what a brave new world with such people in it! So we no longer listen to the Emergency Broadcasting System. Instead, to learn about imminent disasters, we follow Twitter? I am not comforted.

  9. I live in Honolulu, and yes, I think HI-EMA does have a number of canned messages. Perfectly reasonable to do so.

    However, the visuals the guy in the chair has to deal with are a mess. At the moment, I don’t blame the guy who pushed the ‘button’. I blame the guy in charge of HI-EMA, Vern Miyagi, who failed to identify and correct the problems in the software which allowed a single person’s mistakes to send a real warning, allowed software which apparently did not immediately make it blindingly obvious a real message had been sent, did not make it clear to supervisors that they could override protocols to immediately rescind a false alert, and apparently thought they needed federal permission to rescind a false alert, even though they apparently do not need such permission. Miyagi appears to be the guy who screwed up all of these issues, and if that turns out to be the case, he should be replaced.

  10. I can believe this all boils down to stupid software design. So many things do. As a software developer of 30 years and certified nerd, one of my favorite sayings is “Welcome to the future, where everything is amazing and nothing works.”

    In addition to poorly-designed software, it also seems that the Hawaiian officials failed to think things through when they created their processes, which is another common malady of organizations these days.

    XKCD weighs in: https://xkcd.com/1946/

  11. Having read the entire article, it makes sense that the Governor didn’t know his own Twitter & FB passwords. He, like many other politicians, has assistants who run those sites for him.

    Whether this is a good approach or not is a separate topic, but I see nothing to worry about.

    …How that missile alert got out in the first place, being an “oops” moment is of much greater interest and relevance.

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