FBI, DOJ: Lost and found
Those texts from Strzok and Page that had gotten lost?
They’ve been found!:
In a letter sent to congressional committees, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his office “succeeded in using forensic tools to recover text messages from FBI devices, including text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page that were sent or received between December 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017.”
Ah, so the DOJ managed to use forensic tools to find some text messages the FBI couldn’t seem to recover. What a novel idea! I guess we can’t expect the FBI to know what forensic tools are, can we?
And have all the texts been recovered, or some of them are still missing?:
“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing,” Horowitz said. “We will provide copies of the text messages that we recover from these devices to the Department so that the Department’s leadership can take any management action it deems appropriate.”
Fox News has learned from U.S. government officials that the inspector general recovered the texts by taking possession of “at least four” phones belonging to Strzok and Page.
They were busy little beavers, weren’t they (Strzok and Page, not the FBI)? Who knows whether all the texts will ever be recovered, or whether the FBI and DOJ are aware of all the methods the lovers used to communicate.
Weinstein goes on to say that he believes many of the people on the left are unaware that they are part of something which contains these extremist tendencies, which he describes as “unholy and un-American.” – moderate leftist Bret Weinstein
wow, and now we have an organization inside an organization which is like a cancer to the body politic. but it is all ok, as their mission is to save mankind from itself and put themselves up as rulers who will be nice.
Sometimes you have to wonder about the intelligence of bureaucrats. I used to work as a government contractor for the Army and had a MIL domain computer and email address. I never sent anything by email that would embarrass me if it ended up on the front page of the WAPO. Especially, don’t send anything incriminating by email.
Imagine how often this type of thing must happen. Some governmental agency claims they lost some document or something and just have no way of finding it. And if you’re just some guy or some small business what are you going to do.
If forensic tools were needed then either a person or a process deleted them.
“Forensic tools”, I might add, are widely available and in many cases free, so there’s probably no super sekrit law enforcement-only magic going on.
And have all the texts been recovered, or some of them are still missing?
At this point, I don’t trust anything these people say. Note that they did NOT say they’ve recovered ALL the text messages. So they could just be weeding out all the damning texts from the bunch. And this distraction is intended to mollify those of us who are outraged by this in-your-face use of intelligence powers to undermine political processes.
@Ray: “I never sent anything by email that would embarrass me if it ended up on the front page of the WAPO. ”
Seconded, my formulation is “on 60 Minutes”.
Some people are very comfortable where they work and feel it’s a safe space to say whatever, and I think that fact speaks volumes.
“They were busy little beavers weren’t they (Strzok and Page, not the FBI)?”
Just saw this on Instapundit (from something called Lifezette):
“To put 50,000 texts in five months into perspective, consider this:
There are 12,960,000 seconds in five 30-day months.
The number 12,960,000 divided by 50,000 equals a new text message every 259.2 seconds.
This means Strzok and Page texted each other about every 4.32 minutes.
That’s every day of every week of every month for five months!”
Fractal Rabbit:
Yes, I saw that too, earlier today.
But I think it’s incorrect, and that’s why I didn’t add it. The 50,000 figure wasn’t just for the lost texts, it was for the whole shebang.
They were very busy, though. Don’t get me wrong. Just not that busy. Maybe, between the texting and the sex, they actually had time to get some work done.
The odds that those texts were purposely erased is astronomically high. Far too relevant time wise to be coincidental.
But conviction on an obstruction of justice charge is far more preferable than conviction on a charge of conspiracy to commit an insurrection against Presidential authority.
Forensic tools were used by the IG to work out forensic fools at the FBI. At least the IG was able to seize 4 phones from the Fibbies that belonged to the screw-worms. Unlike the Comey FBI with the laptops of the Clintonistas- the Feebs just gave them back. Downloads? Naah. They good peeple.
No indication that Sessions, Rosenstein or Wray were at work in finding these in any way, is there?
Trump is doing great good works, but some of his nominal “buddies” are not exactly holding up their ends in the effort. The opposite, rather.
Neo, you may be correct about the math.
But if that is a combination of two people texting (and that counts all the cutesy little Emojis I am quite sure got shot rapid fire at each other, well, I think its within the realm of possibility.
Strzok will cut a deal and rat out who put him up to this stuff. I’d be very surprised if he obstructed justice for free and he did this without orders.
Strzok was either paid or he was ordered to do this.
An FBI man doesn’t want to go to federal prison.
The whole thing is so sordid. Yuck.
If you would like to see updated photos of Peter. Lisa, &
Mrs Strzok, just put in search engine, heavy Melissa Hodgman
Yes precede the name with the word, heavy. It is a site that gives 5 fast facts on current topics. Stozk s wife qualifies.
Lol neither of these ladies are what I d call Lookers., so kudos to Mr Strzok he likes women for their brain power! LOL
Ray Says:
January 25th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
Sometimes you have to wonder about the intelligence of bureaucrats.
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I don’t wonder about it at all.
They are bureaucrats.
Intel agencies are obviously not immune.
Griffin Says:
January 25th, 2018 at 3:59 pm
Imagine how often this type of thing must happen. Some governmental agency claims they lost some document or something and just have no way of finding it. And if you’re just some guy or some small business what are you going to do.
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Judging from the number of court cases being quashed by judges for prosecutorial misconduct, this happens a lot.
If the agency can be sued, lots of things get found, which is why the Supreme Court had to reject the EPA “because we said so” rules.
he Other Gary Says:
January 25th, 2018 at 4:02 pm
And have all the texts been recovered, or some of them are still missing?
At this point, I don’t trust anything these people say. Note that they did NOT say they’ve recovered ALL the text messages. So they could just be weeding out all the damning texts from the bunch.
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This is always a problem when you let the alleged perps do their own housecleaning.
Like Hillary’s lawyer deciding which emails were personal and which were governmental.
Frederick Says:
January 25th, 2018 at 4:03 pm
Some people are very comfortable where they work and feel it’s a safe space to say whatever, and I think that fact speaks volumes.
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Very much so.
And then there is this:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/fbi-officials-worried-about-being-too-tough-on-hillary-clinton-during-email-investigation-texts-show.html
“FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were concerned about being too tough on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton during the bureau’s investigation into her email practices because she might hold it against them as president, text messages released on Thursday indicated.”
Fox News says it wasn’t just the Dynamic Duo’s texts that were lost, but one wonders why the FBI apparently made no effort to recover all of the lost data at the time it was discovered.
If they don’t think the texts of 10% of their agents were worth the effort, then why are they saving anything at all?
Or was it just those particular people who were “non-essential”? I don’t suppose we will ever learn who they were, or the absolute number of persons affected.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/24/thousands-fbi-cellphones-affected-by-glitch-that-lost-strzok-page-texts-officials-say.html
I think the original story was a load horseshit- they knew how to recover the texts all along, but hoped that the change in equipment in December 2016 would be sufficient cover for an outright erasure and deception ploy. I am guessing that whoever did this was hoping no one would notice the missing five months.
If the Deep State tells the FBI to let JFK go, they will Obey. If the Deep State tells the FBI that Nixon needs to go and to get COINTELPRo on him, they Obey.
If Hussein tells the friendly park rangers to put the rod to the vets and Americans on US property, They Obey.
During the JFK assassination, the current analysis that everyone was in on it, because everyone had received orders, for whatever reasons, to let security slip. The SS, for example, weren’t running by the side of the limo as they should have, nor were decoys or doubles deployed. The reason why Presidential motorcade convoys use the same vehicles all the time, with black tinted windows, is to prevent Identification of the Target. They can switch the order of the vehicles in various locations, to prevent leaks or identification of the President’s location. This can be enough to upset gunmen and snipers, if the SS are near enough to shield.
There was no shield for JFK and the car was quite easy to ID.
Trum is so used to working with and bribing demoncrats like HRC and others in the Senate, that Trum kept some Demoncrats in the FBI leadership slots. Nixon refused to promote an FBI big whig and that one turned out to be the controller behind the coup de tat later on.
Trum’s trust of his former Democrat allies, came back to bite him, as usual.
Then – G-men.
Now – Fibbers.
mezzrow Says:
January 26th, 2018 at 8:22 am
Then — G-men.
Now — Fibbers.
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Yancey Ward Says:
January 26th, 2018 at 1:22 am
I think the original story was a load horseshit- they knew how to recover the texts all along, but hoped that the change in equipment in December 2016 would be sufficient cover for an outright erasure and deception ploy. I am guessing that whoever did this was hoping no one would notice the missing five months.
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Excellent point.
If so many texts were missing for 10% of the force (according to one report), why weren’t they already working on recovery?
Or are FBI retention policies just “window dressing” for the rubes?
The Deep State determines what gets lost and found, not the US President, not JFK, not Reagan, and not American voters.
People thought otherwise a decade or plus ago? Oh, my sympathies for being mind control slaves then: poor human public drones.