January 31st, 2018

The jiu jitsu SOTU speech

I’m virtually certain that the Democrats had prepared a unified strategy in advance for reacting to the SITU.

Show unity. Don’t stand. Clap only for the things you must clap for, and do so tepidly. Make it clear you don’t agree with this racist, stupid, senile presidential pretender. Resist the very notion of his standing there and giving this speech as though he deserves to.

Trump surprised them and gave a speech for which they had not prepared, a speech they hadn’t expected: a unity speech, loaded with things they should actually have favored and applauded. Here’s one of the most blatant examples of what I mean, where we have the odd spectacle of a bunch of Republicans cheering a historic reduction in black unemployment and a bunch of Democrats (some of them black) sitting on their hands and refusing to be glad. Note some of them looking at each other for cues as to what they should do:

In his SOTU speech Trump caught them flat-footed by being almost 100% the Happy Warrior. Every time the cameras panned on their unhappy faces, they looked sunk in gloom and bile.

They didn’t seem to be expecting this, although they should have. And they didn’t seem to be able to wing it and come up with a better reaction.

It’s a grave danger to underestimate your opponents. The Democrats have gotten used to underestimating Republicans, and it’s not a mystery why. Republicans have often played into their hands. Trump confounds them for many many reasons, but one of them is that he doesn’t play into their hands and yet they perceive that he does. They keep thinking that he has cooked his own goose (or that they are helping him to cook his own goose) and they seem surprised and puzzled every time the situation manages to boomerang back at them.

If you spend a lot of time hammering home the idea that your opponent is stupid, crazy, and/or senile, then every time he acts smart, sane, and competent it makes you look stupid, crazy, and/or like a lying propagandist. If your opponent gets to show himself to the American people and he’s not as you’ve described, who ends up looking foolish?

It’s highly likely that the Democrats’ base loved that the party hung tough against Trump and his populist celebration of America and its people. But the great middle—what did they think? I can’t help but believe that they felt even more estranged from the Democrats than in November of 2016, when that gulf was responsible for the stunning election of Trump the underdog.

A lot—a lot—can happen between now and November 2018. But I don’t see that the Congressional Democrats helped their own cause last night. They were unable to improvise a response that made more sense to most people. Clapping enthusiastically would have seemed like they were approving of Trump, and they didn’t want to do that. But looking grumpy made them seem like they were disapproving not just of Trump, but of America and the success of ordinary Americans.

[NOTE: How many people watched the speech? Previous figures are here. Perhaps the Democrats are counting on the MSM to spin it for them and create a positive perception of their behavior. But I think that the larger the audience for the speech, the more difficult their task may be, and the Democrats may have caused extra people to tune in to see if the rumored disruptions would occur. And if CBS is tweeting that sit-on-their-hands moment for the Democrats in reaction to the black unemployment figures, that particular sound bite will be likely to reach even some people who didn’t watch the speech and would not otherwise have known.]

37 Responses to “The jiu jitsu SOTU speech”

  1. Dave Says:

    Democrats are anti-America obstructionists pretending to be these compassionate social justice warriors who will never compromise or work with trump even if it means that it will profoundly help those they claimed to help. there is no better way to expose them as frauds and pull them down from the moral high ground by giving them exactly what they wanted plus more. Conservatives need no worry that they will accept those deals thus giving amnesty to milliions of Nightmarers, Democrats will never make deals with trump, they never give a darn about the Illegal immigrants, they pretend to do so to get their relatives’ votes. Democrats never intended to help them obtain citizenship, there is no incentives for them to do so. Them being illegal and a dream of Democrats helping them become real America is what giving their votes to Democrats.
    Once they are legalized they will no longer under the control of Democrats, just like if black community rises, democrat will never let that happens, keeping the black community down is the only way Democrats will continue to get their votes.

    George W was willing to do immigration reform and give them all a pathway to citizenship, it was liberals like Bernie Sanders who shot that down, because they can’t let a Republican president to take the credit. Of course they would lie about how they voted it down because it was a bad deal for the illegal immigrants, of course it could be debunked simply by the fact that they didn’t do s**t about it when they had both houses with a big majority, but of course they blamed the republicans for being the obstructionists blocking millions of dreamers from becoming citizens. There are no words to describe how despicable Democrats are, they pretend to help some disfranchised people while doing everything in their powers behind the scene to keep these people down to continue to milk votes from these groups pretending to be their friends while stabbing them in the back every single time at the crucial moment when real changes might final realized, when will people wake up and see through these disgusting schemes?

  2. F Says:

    Your analysis is spot on, Neo. It illustrates one of the Democrats’ strengths: party discipline. Sometimes — this time, for example — that discipline does not work in their favor. Except for the strongest partisans. There will be Ds who really believe the members of Congress made a good showing of unity. Others will wonder, as you did, why they could not celebrate America’s successes and strengths.

    Two things that bear mentioning:

    Nancy Pelosi looked like her teeth were falling out and she had to keep pushing them back in place. That, coupled with her putdown of Chris Cuomo (“with all due respect, you don’t know what you’re talking about”) makes her look demented. I kept looking to see where her broom was parked.

    Joe Kennedy had a good speech — lots of memorable lines. I did not think he delivered it particularly well, but I’m sure he will now become the face of the party. That’s not going to go over well with Kamala Harris or Tom Perez, who think it’s time for a woman or minority to be the face of the party. I think this identity politics is a poor reply to the all-inclusiveness Trump showed last night.

  3. Dave Says:

    Liberals have all the powers to help every single wetdreamer to obtain a pathway to citizenship, all it takes is to have every single woman participated in the woman march to sponsor an illegal immigrant through a green card marriage, it is that simple.

    feminists would argue why would they need to scarify anything to help the dreamers, then the question becomes why do Americans need to scarify any resources or jobs for citizens to help the dreamers if the progressives wouldn’t even will to help them by scarifying just a few years of their time?

  4. Dave Says:

    i am not advocating for anyone to break the law by committing marriage fraud. A fraud is committed only if money or substantive benefits was involved in the marriage arrangement. It is not a fraud if the feminist does it truly out of love and free of charge, and the marriage is legit meaning they live together making healthy babies. in fact it is one stone three birds for the feminist, she get to help the illegal while having a chance to go through an abortion or becoming a single mom after the man’s gone

  5. The Other Chuck Says:

    Is this the same man who spent the better part of two years and all of the presidential debates vilifying and demeaning, and has carried on in short 3:00 AM tweets in the same manner? The dichotomy is as stark as any I’ve seen. As with the televised meeting he moderated with congressional leaders recently, it served it’s purpose – very, very well.

  6. T Says:

    ” . . . a bunch of Democrats (some of them black) sitting on their hands and refusing to be glad. Note some of them looking at each other for cues as to what they should do . . .” [Neo]

    The definitive response to this thought was offered by James Carville:

    The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

    The link:

    https://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp

  7. arfldgrs Says:

    They have fallen apart before – see M.R.Pact

    75% liked…
    oh oh…
    🙂 🙂
    [had to try again bad database call when submitted]

    and on another note in the democrat war on the culture so that it would change for them (as the original definition of trotsky racism is applied)…

    Cornerd desperate animals are not defeated till defeated.

    on another note:
    Be careful about going up against successful people who are that way because they are GREAT RECORD KEEPERS for ages in case of lawsuits.

    obviously, many many of certain persuasions ignore this:

    Ben Brafman: “As a general matter, Harvey Weinstein and his attorneys have refrained from publicly criticizing any of the women who have made allegations of sexual assault against Mr. Weinstein despite a wealth of evidence that would demonstrate the patent falsity of these claims. Watching the “performance” by Rose McGowan as she looks to promote her new book however, has made it impossible to remain quiet as she tries to smear Mr. Weinstein with a bold lie that is denied not only by Mr. Weinstein himself, but by at least two witnesses, including Ms. McGowan’s own Manager at the time who Ms.

    McGowan claims to have confided in the day after the alleged assault and an A-list actor Ben Affleck who Ms. McGowan claims to have also told about her encounter with Mr. Weinstein shortly after the incident she now describes as “rape”, but which in 1997 she described to her Manager as a “consensual” act of sex.

    “In an email to Mr. Weinstein regarding the encounter, Jill Messick says the following, “When we met up the following day, she hesitantly told me of her own accord that during the meeting that night before she had gotten into a hot tub with Mr. Weinstein. She was very clear about the fact that getting into that hot tub was something that she did consensually and that in hindsight it was also something that she regretted having done.”

    “Ben Affleck expressed the following in an email to Mr. Weinstein, “She never told me nor did I ever infer that she was attacked by anyone. Any accounts to the contrary are false. I have no knowledge about anything Rose did or claimed to have done.”

  8. arfldgrs Says:

    Almost perfect:

    Show unity. Don’t stand. Clap only for the things you must clap for, and do so tepidly. Make it clear you don’t agree with this racist, stupid, senile presidential pretender. Resist the very notion of his standing there and giving this speech as though he deserves to. and no matter how much you like it, will help you, help the people you represent, an enemy deserves no quarter, no inch, you can not even an iota side with the enemy of the future communist state

    [you can read instructions very much like this if you know the key words to translate the story to the old way and unlock the door to the past whose words used are different than the words remolded today… how else do stalinists (centrists), hide the past from social memory?]

    I said to read this:
    The Revolutionary Catechism – Sergey Nechayev 1869

    I can tell no one did, as no one menitioned the OTHER version:
    Revolutionary Catechism by Michail Bakunin 1866

    Mikhail Alexandrovich Bakunin

    was a Russian revolutionary anarchist and founder of collectivist anarchism. He is considered among the most influential figures of anarchism, and one of the principal founders of the social anarchist tradition Bakunin’s enormous prestige as an activist made him one of the most famous ideologues in Europe, and he gained substantial influence among radicals throughout Russia and Europe.

    While there are many inclinations of the libertarian direction of Bakunin’s thought before and after his escape from Siberia in 1861, it was not until the period between 1864 and 1867, when he lived in Italy, that his anarchist ideas took final shape…

    In 1864 Bakunin founded the secret International Revolutionary Association (better known as
    the International Fraternity) which published its program and statutes in 1865–66 in three related
    documents: The International Family , the Revolutionary Catechism , and the National Catechism, in which Bakunin outlined the basic tenets of his doctrine. They are, as H. E, Kaminski writes, “the spiritual foundation of the entire anarchist movement…”

    Iit is in these documents you find the orders and such that detail the action that neo describes…

    the whole idea is to give advantage by teaching the new to avoid the past mistakes, and counfounding the new, so they make the same mistakes

  9. Sharon W Says:

    “It’s a grave danger to underestimate your opponents. The Democrats have gotten used to underestimating Republicans, and it’s not a mystery why. Republicans have often played into their hands. Trump confounds them for many many reasons, but one of them is that he doesn’t play into their hands and yet they perceive that he does.”

    So true, Neo! The Democrats believe so much that isn’t true, so many of their positions not based in reality. I think that is starting to be exposed on many levels.

  10. brdavis9 Says:

    Last year, as the year went on, and last night in particular, The Donald vaulted into the position of being my most favorite president of the past 60 plus years of my remembrance. (I do remember Ike, though I was still in grade school; I was but a babe in arms during Truman.)

    Yeah, past Ronnie PBUH. Admittedly barely. But there you go.

    I admit I did not see that coming.

    …said from the perspective that The Donald didn’t bother me from his surprise beginning announcement he’d be running, like he did a lot of fellow conservatives once his performance in the early primaries sunk in. By then I’d seen him speak downtown, and I liked what I heard and what I saw. As did the surprisingly varied crowd standing around me …and when I saw that one kid all tatted up and sporting a Mohawk – cheering!?! – from a few feet in front of me, I had a genuine WTF political moment lol. And I’ve found little fault in how he’s performed in office, accepting he is what he is.

  11. arfldgrs Says:

    A born aristocrat (if he should, by some happy chance, be ashamed of his aristocratic lineage and renounce privileges of birth) will yearn for past glories, be useless in the present, and passionately oppose future progress. The same goes for the bourgeois: this dear child of capital and idleness will waste his leisure in dishonesty, corruption, and debauchery, or serve as a brutal force to enslave the working class, who will eventually unleash against him a retribution…..

    what DO they fear in Trump?

    This slavery will last until capitalism is overthrown by the collective action of the workers.
    They will be exploited as long as education (which in a free society will be equally available to all) is the exclusive birthright of the privileged class; as long as this minority monopolizes scientific and managerial work and the people — reduced to the status of machines or beasts of burden — are forced to perform the menial tasks assigned to them by their exploiters.

    This degradation of human labor is an immense evil, polluting the moral, intellectual, and political institutions of society. History shows that an uneducated multitude whose natural intelligence is suppressed and who are brutalized by the mechanical monotony of daily toil, who grope in vain for any enlightenment, constitutes a mindless mob whose blind turbulence threatens the very existence of society itself

    Their weltanschauung believes the above, to the point where they gave up on liberating the people and instead, keep them in that degrading point in which they never wake up and realize and make the turbulence that threatens their existence!!!!!!!!!!

    Its willi munsenbergs missive written large in everything they do!
    never let the public know these ideas are not theirs

    and their behavior is designed to rienforce the position of those who look to them for direction!!! they cant show any other faces because the minute they do, the facade falls and the truth comes out – the people been played

  12. arfldgrs Says:

    Social Organization.

    Without political equality there can be no real political liberty, but political equality will be possible only when there is social and economic equality.

    B. Equality and justice demand only a society so organized that every single human being will — from birth through adolescence and maturity — find therein equal means, first for ,aintenance and education, and later, for the exercise of all his natural capacities and aptitudes

    D. Abolition of the right of inheritance.

    When inequality resulting from the right of inheritance is abolished, there will still remain inequalities [of wealth] — due to the diverse amounts of energy and skill possessed by individuals. These inequalities will never entirely disappear, but will become more and more minimized under the influence of education and of an egalitarian social organization, and, above all, when the right of inheritance no longer burdens the coming generations.

    <

    Christianity, the religion of the slaves, much later destroyed ancient forms of slavery only to create a new slavery. Privilege, based on inequality and the right of conquest and sancti-fied by divine grace, again separated society into two opposing camps: the “rabble” and the
    nobility, the serfs and the masters.

    K. Intelligent and free labor will necessarily be collective labor.
    Each person will, of course, be free to work alone or collectively. But there is no doubt that (outside of work best performed individually) in industrial and even scientific or artistic enterprises, collective labor will be preferred by everyone

    AND HERE IS WHAT THEY WERE WORKIGN ON, AND WHAT THEY FEEL THEY ARE LOSING
    When the free productive associations (which will include
    members of cooperatives and labor organizations) voluntarily organize according to their needs and special skills, they will then transcend all national boundaries and form an immense worldwide economic federation. This will include an industrial parliament, supplied by the associations with precise and detailed global-scale statistics; by harmonizing supply and demand the parliament will distribute and allocate world industrial production to the various nations. Commercial and industrial crises, stagnation (unemployment), waste of capital, etc., will no longer plague mankind; the emancipation of human labor will regenerate the world</B

    THE EUROPEAN UNION
    OPEN BORDERS
    DIVERSITY
    ETC..

    IF YOUR PROPHETS TOLD YOU ABOUT YOUR PROMISED LAND (above), IS IT ANY WONDER THEY WORK LIKE ZEALOTS TO GET TO THEIR PROMISED LAND

    and THAT is why they are behaving the way they do
    from end to end, stem to stern, back to front – they follow the script that has brought them nations, power, glory, control, and secured their childrens future… why would they NOT follow this?

  13. arfldgrs Says:

    Note some of them looking at each other for cues as to what they should do

    without a dear leader what does the collective do?
    none of the papers, or stuff told them how to act
    they follow scripts that are 150 years old
    of course if you dont knwo the play, you dont know the parts

    but if you do
    you can see it in front of you

    Uncooperative behavior is legendary in the soviet union over things… (and other places like turning your back!)

    dont you remember the north korean talks where they stare at the cieling and force the other side to act in what way?

    without the script from the papers, and courses, and plans for the next day, they fall the freak apart.

    They cant self organize, they need to be organized.

    theirs is the blind confidence of robots
    ours is the self doubt of humans

    ah. whats the use?

  14. arfldgrs Says:

    The Democrats have gotten used to underestimating Republicans, and it’s not a mystery why. Republicans have often played into their hands.

    wrong..
    ENTRYISM…
    Entryism (also referred to as entrism or enterism, or as infiltration) is a political strategy in which an organisation or state encourages its members or supporters to join another, usually larger, organisation in an attempt to expand influence and expand their ideas and program

    its also called “the french turn” – its TROTSKY the LEFT opposition…

    its getting to the point its mental avoidance the inability to accept the reality being described and pretend its otherwise to feel better and safer. the latter concept has no danger in it, its the foibles of people and politicians, but they didnt always act that way did they?

    Remember the movie about D-day? there were several scenes in it pulled from history. the mother who suffocated her baby to survive… but also, the elderly woman, whose mind could not accept the war – and who walked out into the street under maching gun fire, to hail a cab to go to the shops..

    Her reality became so awful she could not see what was in front of her

    Inducing that is a goal…

    in fact, they are so whipped up psychologically they not only are lost without their collecvtive leaders… they dont know how to behave other than falling back on formula…

    the republicans ARE democrats..
    if you control both sides of an argument you control the argument

    good cop bad cop
    I have listed this method a dozen times

    But its ignored as if methodologies dont exist and you cant learn to employ them.

    i have leftists yelling at me at work that we have to stop this man to prevent a totalitarian state from forming… that they are doing things to stop such a state… they fear the left but they call it the right!!!

    classical example of projection:
    Donald Trump and the Politics of Fear
    Trump’s candidacy relies on the power of fear. It could be the only way for him to win
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trump-and-the-politics-of-fear/498116/

    they are defining reality but now, under trump, reality is not listening and is ignoring their memos

    that doesnt mean they win
    that means they are desperate
    it means a pyrhicc victory is better than none at all!!!
    because despite their words, they know, winning is everything
    [they know this because of what they want to do to the losers]

  15. arfldgrs Says:

    the Persuasion Reading List…
    [separate from the history of lef action]
    [study magic, cons, hypnosis… you think THEY dont?]

    Influence – by Robert B. Cialdini PhD

    How to Fail at Almost Everything and Still Win Big: Kind of the Story of My Life – by Scott Adams

    Win Bigly – By Scott adams (Persuasion Tips based on the 2016 election)

    Impossible to Ignore – Dr. Carmen Simon

    Trump: The Art of the Deal – Donald J. Trump

    What Every BODY is Saying – by Joe Navarro

    The Power of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business – by Charles Duhigg

    Thinking, Fast and Slow – by Daniel Kahneman

    Salt Sugar Fat – by Michael Moss

    Pre-Suasion – By Robert B. Cialdini PhD

    Win Your Case: How to Present, Persuade, and Prevail–Every Place, Every Time – by Gerry Spence

    How to Win Friends & Influence People – by Dale Carnegie

    The Design of Everyday Things – by Don Norman

    How to Write a Good Advertisement – by Victor O. Schwab

    The Secret to Selling Anything – by Harry Browne

    The One Sentence Persuasion Course – 27 Words to Make the World Do Your Bidding – by Blair Warren

  16. Oldflyer Says:

    I watched the speech, although I really didn’t want to. I am glad that I did, because I saw quintessential Trump when he decides to behave. Very effective.

    I am a bit at odds with myself over what it means. Either he is truly an evolving Statesman with a really great vision of where the country should go; or he is a master showman (con artist?). Or maybe, a grand a mixture.

    At any rate, only fools or charlatans, will continue to suggest that he is demented, or stupid. Only fools will underestimate him.

    I enjoyed the show. On a superficial level, I enjoyed the spectacle of the Democrats; but, deep down I am concerned about the future when a near majority of the ruling class are so alienated that they behave as they did.

  17. I Callahan Says:

    Rush Limbaugh has been hammering this for years, but until seeing the reactions to the speech, I really didn’t want to completely believe it:

    The Democrat Party, in its current incarnation, really doesn’t like the country it wants to govern, at least, the way the country is now. It wants to wholly change the makeup and feel of the USA to a European-style social (socialist?) democracy, where we’re all fed from cradle to grave.

    I guess Obama’s “fundamentally transform” statement really was an honest assessment of his beliefs.

  18. CV Says:

    Salena Zito watched the speech with a family in my neck of the woods. Like me and my husband, the parents are middle class professionals (and possibly reluctant) Trump voters and they encourage their teenagers to be informed about politics. I was struck by how much of an impression it made on these kids to see prominent Democrats at the SOTU refuse to stand and clap for some of the personal stories and what should be common ground issues:

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/31/donald-trump-is-still-the-man-to-these-blue-collar-voters/

  19. steve walsh Says:

    Trump included those stories because they are consistent with, and made a human connection to, the themes in his speech, but do you think he also did it because he had a strong suspicion or knew the Dems would act they way they did? And who were the Dems playing to with their juvenile and disrespectful display? Their base?

  20. CV Says:

    To get a taste for how Joe Kennedy III is packaging himself and his family, check out this fawning profile in Town and Country. The B&W photo of him and his wife and daughter are carefully staged to look exactly like Jack, Jackie and Caroline 2.0:

    http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a10203934/congressman-joe-kennedy-iii-interview/

    And here’s NRO’s Jim Geraghty on JK III and a long overdue reckoning about his family:

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/corner/455944/joe-kennedy-iii-and-americas-long-overdue-reckoning-about-his-family

  21. Sam L. Says:

    Whoever did that CBS tweet is gonna get fired, or at least, demoted. That’s TOTALLY against The Narrative!

  22. The Other Chuck Says:

    Oldflyer:

    You gave words to EXACTLY how I feel about Trump and this speech, as well as your concern about the future.

  23. Ray Says:

    The Congressional Black Caucus was funny. They sat there like they were paralyzed. Did they overdose on Botox?

  24. arfldgrs Says:

    President Trump talked long on Tuesday night, “the third-longest State of the Union in the past 50 years, according to The New York Times. But he rarely talked about himself — unlike his predecessor.

    President Obama’s first State of the Union speech in 2010 featured the president saying some version of “I” or “me” nearly 100 times. That was nearly four times more than Trump managed — 98 personal references to a mere 26.

    For all the media have attacked Trump about his ego, it was Obama who earned regular criticism for being self-referential in his speeches. His first 41 speeches showed this tendency was off the charts — mentioning himself nearly 1,200 times – 1,198 to be exact.

  25. arfldgrs Says:

    Trump brought American hero after American hero to the SOTU
    https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/trumps-sotu-guests-include-heroes-homeowners-dems-invite-transgender-veteran

    The parents of two young women, Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, friends who were brutally murdered by MS-13 gang members.

    The first blind, double-amputee to reenlist in the Marine Corps, Corporal (Ret.) Matthew Bradford, who had been injured by an IED explosion while serving in Iraq.

    The founder of a non-profit rescue and recovery organization that has provided aid to thousands of people across the South victimized by floods and storms, including Hurricane, Jon Bridgers.

    Fire prevention technician David Dahlberg who saved 62 children from a raging wildfire in Southern California.
    Police Officer Ryan Holets, who has served six years on the force in Albuquerque, New Mexico, been shot twice and, along with his wife, adopted a baby from parent who suffered from opioid addiction.

    Coast Guard Aviation Technician Ashlee Leppert who rescued dozens of Americans during last year’s devastating hurricane season.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agen Celestino “CJ” Martinez, whose investigations have led to arrests of more than 100 MS-13 gang members who have been prosecuted for crimes, including homicide, assault, narcotics and weapons trafficking.

    U.S. Army Staff Sergeant Justin Peck, who was directly responsible for saving Chief Petty Officer Stacy’s life after Stacy was severely injured during an explosion in Syria last year.

    A veteran’s son, Preston Sharp, who has organized the placement of more than 40,000 flags and red carnations on soldiers’ graves, in honor of their service to the country.

    The president and vice president of Staub Manufacturing Solutions, a contract manufacturing company, who gave increased bonuses to their employees, thanks to last year’s tax reform legislation.

    A skilled welder, Corey Adams, who, with his wife, became first-time homeowners and invested extra money into their daughters’ education savings as a result of tax reform.

    Democrats brought illegal aliens.

  26. arfldgrs Says:

    STUNNING! Democrats BOO and GROAN at Trump Mention of Murder Victims of MS-13 Killers

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/stunning-democrats-boo-parents-girls-murdered-ms-13-killers-new-york-video/

    President Trump invited Elizabeth Alvarado, Robert Mickens, Evelyn Rodriguez, and Freddy Cuevas to his State of the Union Address. They are the parents of Nisa Mickens and Kayla Cuevas, who had been close friends since elementary school, but in September 2016, the two girls were chased down and brutally murdered by MS-13.

    On Tuesday night when the President honored the parents of Kayla and Nisa and the victims of illegal immigrant violence the Democrats groaned and booed.
    This was a shocking display – even for today’s Democrats.

  27. Dave Says:

    I don’t understand why are liberals so opposed of the idea of a wall? a wall would inconvenient no one but the border jumpers, do democrats really openly support border jumpers?

  28. arfldgrs Says:

    Meanwhile, are we going to notice this METOO moment?

    here is one way the left (on both sides!!) are going to get women to vote more for them.. (at the expense of men, of course).

    The money distributed under H.R. 4720 would directly fund training programs that instruct relevant personnel on a “trauma-informed” approach to crimes of sexual violence, informed by “the fundamentals of the neurobiology of trauma [and the] impact of trauma on victims.”

    H.R. 4720 pursues the admirable goal of promoting justice in the interests of victims. However, despite these good intentions, it fails to achieve that goal and instead promotes a scientifically unsound pseudo-science and a criminal justice theory completely at odds with well-established concepts of procedural due process.

    What is a ‘trauma-informed’ investigation?

    Trauma-informed investigative practices are an offspring of the “Start by Believing” campaign, launched in 2011 by End Violence Against Women International as part of its goal to “transform the way we respond to sexual assault.”

    As the name suggests, the basic premise of the campaign is to dramatically reconstruct the role of law enforcement officers, detectives, and other investigators of sexual assault by training them to focus on how the complainant could be telling the truth despite evidence to the contrary.

    Under this approach, investigators should no longer be neutral, third-party fact-gatherers, but agents of the person alleging sexual assault. They should assume all complainants are genuine victims and must find ways of making even inconsistent, inaccurate, and exculpatory evidence support the complainant’s allegations.

    “Trauma-informed investigation” theory attempts to cloak “Start by Believing” with an air of scientific credibility, instructing investigators and adjudicators of assault claims to consider the “neurobiology of trauma” and how it affects an alleged victim’s behaviors and ability to recall information.

    And you wonder why WE started MGTOW over at Mancoat?

    Quick… Before Rose Kills Harvey…
    as harvey just pulled out email evidence..
    and she went nuts as she is promoting her new book
    which tells the stories, and if they are not true, what happens?

    This is junk science… like kinsey, meade, etc..
    peterson would agree, given the has commented on feminist junk science
    in fact, it hits the things he talks about as to what is junk

    But dont think THAT matters, he also points out that the facts as to women salaries is also junk scicne, but its beign used like kinsey (the most quoted psychologists in law judgments), meade and so on… to reform society – along the lines of that 1909 paper..

  29. arfldgrs Says:

    Dave Says: January 31st, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    I don’t understand why are liberals so opposed of the idea of a wall? a wall would inconvenient no one but the border jumpers, do democrats really openly support border jumpers?

    Because the problem isnt the problem..

    you only have to read the demographics stuff from EACH of the western countries that accepted feminism, and its 5 decade long below replacement birth rates.

    its gone on so long, they now talk about it openly when before neo would not even entertian it as you had ot do the math to figure it out, and demographic math is not fun.. (i do it for the researchers i work with, so.. )

    funny part is that companies i also work for, have been making all manner of preparations for this change in terms of stocks, retirments, businesses and such.. only the women dont want to know… and the dems do not want them to know, they may end up on lightpoles!!!

    everyone of the countries we discuss as to the imigration thing says mostly the same. native women did not have children (no reason given as that reason was what left pushed), and so they HAVE to import… as their economic model they created cant function on what is going to happen due to their meddling about for the future

    Half the World’s Population is Reaching Below Replacement Fertility
    https://ifstudies.org/blog/half-the-worlds-population-is-reaching-below-replacement-fertility
    almost one half of the world’s population lives in countries with below replacement fertility (BRF), i.e. with a total fertility rate (TFR) below 2.1 births per woman.

    Since the middle of the 20th century, childbearing has declined by 50 percent: 50 to 60 years ago women in developed and developing countries combined had on average 5 children, but now the world average is about 2.5 children per woman.

    50-60 years ago?
    THATS 1968 summer of love and the feminist revolution!

    ideas are more deadly than nuclear weapons
    russia could not bomb the US and kill 70 million

    But they could feed women a lie, and THEY would remove 70 million people who were the backbone of the american experiment…

    and they women wont stop till they are so far gone, due to the momentum variable in demographics. in fact they will beat you up, ostracize you and really ruin your life..

    look at this graphic
    https://urbanland.uli.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2015/01/diversity_1.jpg

    the faces of those in America’s younger generations look substantially different from those of the country’s elders. Today, there is no majority race for children under five.

    Multiracial marriage is climbing and, according to Frey, has reached one out of seven marriages. [yeah a lot of men are marrying asian women and find western women very distasteful… ]

    In addition, the census bureau’s projections show that the white, non-Hispanic population will start to decline in absolute terms in the next ten years. [because their daughers take that long to have kids that then grow up in the socialist democrat feminist education system]

    Frey is the first to point out that the United States “is lucky to have this trend” of a growing population, in contrast with other countries with shrinking or aging workforces, but he is equally emphatic when he concludes that “the future well-being of seniors and the nation as a whole depends on the ability of today’s youth to succeed in tomorrow’s labor force.”

    Frey doesnt tell you that its growing cause of open borders and islamic immigration in which they have multiple wives (feminists i guess changed their minds over mormons), and many many children

    -=-=-=-

    Immigration also will contribute to America’s changing demographic landscape, but Frey’s numbers show that “the diversity explosion is going to happen regardless of what happens with immigration.” Simple demographic rules apply: aging populations shrink; young populations grow. The age profile of the white population in the United States is similar to the aging and shrinking populations of Europe and Japan

    why did the populatio age and not have children?
    they speak as if this is natural, but was it?

    They told women to leave home
    Destroy family
    No fault divorce with legal lottery
    Men out of school so undesireable in earnings
    Promoted promescuity (ruining fidelity, increasing infertility, etc)
    promoted high wages with high taxes for immigrant women (but earned by the feminist women in corporations who have no time to have kids)
    worked to hide perimenopause
    funded abortions on demand for free
    gave out rubbers for free
    sold the girls baby body parts to fund more.

    this list is a lot larger
    but we dont put the pieces al down on the table
    we only discuss them apart, so we cant put the clues together

    🙂

    [you should see the new simulations… it explains why sweden, italy, france, uk, germany, america, etc.. are importing people.. and why the ex soviet states who dont let this happen are not dying out, and the russian state that WAS Dying out, recovers before us as they stopped it too other than for show and if you thnk the communist party of china wants another power to contend with, then you know thats for show too]

  30. arfldgrs Says:

    Reproduction drives population growth; digging deeper into the census bureau’s methodology reveals who the bureau thinks will be producing the babies that will be America’s future growth. American-born groups “were below replacement in 2011” and only “foreign-born Hispanics and foreign-born non-Hispanic others are projected to have fertility levels that exceed replacement at any point” between now and 2060.

    The fuel that drives the engine of natural increase in the United States will be the life experiences and choices of women born in Latin America, the Caribbean, and Africa.

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-

    and here is what all those women with PINK p*ssy hats are getting beaten up and marginalized and are losing their movement.

    Business models that primarily attract tenants, customers, or workers who are predominantly white and under 35 will be facing shrinking markets. Government policies affecting immigration, education, workforce development, and the support of young families will also come to the fore.

    ie. your out.. dying out.. we are ingraitiating ourselves to your replacements. your power was in your numbers and your children. you didnt have any, they do, we will have to deal with them not you. – the democrat party of the USA

  31. Simon Says:

    I was watching with my 12-year-old apolitical son. He was uncharacteristically interested. He kept commenting about how bad the Democrats looked and seemed impressed overall by the speech. If the middle is anything like him, then Trump scored a huge victory. My wife, on the other hand, left the room in disgust.

  32. Richard Says:

    Kennedy…….Car……..I thought TEDDY !

    What were the Dems thinking……..?

  33. Banned Lizard Says:

    Enthusiasm on the Republican side was similarly (and strikingly) not matched by Democrats when moving the embassy to Jerusalem came up. And with Jews watching no less! This move is almost universally popular among all branches of the Jewish community here and abroad – the tiny exception being J Street and the like.
    Having the MSM echo their talking points is not serving the Dems well. They are trapped by their false narratives with no way out.

  34. DNW Says:

    “….Limbaugh has been hammering this for years, but until seeing the reactions to the speech, I really didn’t want to completely believe it:

    The Democrat Party, in its current incarnation, really doesn’t like the country it wants to govern …

    Bret Weinstein, the progressive Evergreen State professor who famously ran afoul of student protestors for having insufficient ideological ardor has this to say …

    They want not equality but to turn the tables of oppression …

    https://youtu.be/9osjKN5VWfM?t=110

    Michale Moore, has as much as admitted the same desire on his part, numerous times before.

  35. AesopFan Says:

    I’ve read several stories about the speech from both sides of the aisle, and the spinning on the Left is enough to put a gyroscope to shame.

  36. FOAF Says:

    “The Democrat Party, in its current incarnation, really doesn’t like the country it wants to govern”

    This. That was the exact moment when I stopped voting for Democrats, now years ago before Obama, when I realized that the “Michael Moore” wing of the party had taken over and was driving the bus. The worst thing about it was that the party “elders” who should have known better – people like Biden, Feinstein, even Schumer and Pelosi – went along with it for narrow political reasons. Now they are stuck with it.

  37. mhj Says:

    When you don’t understand why someone does something, it’s best to look deeper. I think what we are seeing is an attempt to bring the disaffected Sanders supporters into the Democratic fold, and then make the 2018 election all about turning out your base, while counting on the media to try to discourage the GOP base (as they always do) and suppress their turnout.

    In other words, make the divisions bigger and starker–the Democrats are the truly divisive party, and it is inherent in their strategy.

    And by never treating Trump as “normal,” set the stage to impeach him if they take the House–tho it’s hard to see where 67 Senate votes to convict will come from unless something real, not just political, turns up.

    Is it their best possible strategy? Will it work? I don’t know, but looking at how they act, I think it’s what they are after.

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