February 9th, 2018

Dueling redactions

The Democrats protested mightily that the Nunes memo could not be released because it would expose too much secret and/or classified information and compromise our national security.

But the Schiff memo—ah, the Schiff memo! If you redact parts of it we will accuse you of playing politics. In fact, Schiff is already setting the stage:

Rep. Adam Schiff predicted Tuesday that the White House would not block the release of a Democratic memo related to the Russia investigation, but he warned the administration against trying to obfuscate the document by redacting portions that could embarrass President Donald Trump.

In addition, all the Republican members of the House Intelligence Committee have voted to release the Schiff memo, making the decision unanimous (after initially voting against it, saying they had just received it and needed more time to study it). All the Democrat members of the House Intelligence Committee had voted against releasing the Nunes memo.

11 Responses to “Dueling redactions”

  1. Steve57 Says:

    …but he warned the administration against trying to obfuscate the document by redacting portions that could embarrass President Donald Trump…

    Trump should respond by saying they’re only goint to redact the parts where the Democrats betray the country.


  2. steve walsh Says:

    Release the memo, put any inappropriate disclosures on him (Schiff).

  3. Sven Says:

    Release the whole thing unredacted. Time to end the charade of “sources and methods” as an excuse protecting law-breaking government officials. We already know the NSA scoops up all our communications and can probably listen to us singing in the shower too.

  4. parker Says:

    Yes, no redactions. Let the cokkie crumble.

  5. AesopFan Says:

    “can probably listen to us singing in the shower too.”


  6. AesopFan Says:

    Not precisely on the “redaction-gate” but a couple of interesting articles on the topic in general which I ran across today. The headlines pretty much speak for themselves.



  7. AesopFan Says:

    Politico is no Trump fan, but they are at least speaking to the long-ago-liberal & current-libertarian dislike of government power.


    “Neither Grassley nor Nunes really grapple with the critical question of why, if the evidence was so thin, surveillance on Page was renewed on three separate occasions, including once during the Trump administration. Normally, after all, the FISA court would ask for evidence that the previous three months of wiretaps had produced some substantive intelligence before acceding to a renewal. But the question of whether the initial order was adequately justified is an important one, even if the surveillance did bear fruit. The Constitution demands that searches be supported by probable cause before they are carried out, not retroactively justified by the fact that evidence was found.

    If the Grassley letter is accurate, it should provoke a debate, not about whether some cabal within the FBI had chosen Carter Page as the unlikely vehicle for a byzantine plot against Trump, but about whether the FISA process is rigorous enough to protect the civil liberties of all Americans, including those without high political connections. This is no longer a question of whether the FBI concealed information from the FISA court, but of whether the court looked at a relatively meager body of evidence and signed off on a wiretap anyway. That wouldn’t imply a personal conspiracy against Trump, but a deficiency in the mechanism by which thousands of targeted FISA warrants—more than 300 focused on Americans in 2016—are routinely approved. The problem, in other words, would not be that the Page application got exceptionally lax scrutiny, but rather that it didn’t.”

  8. AesopFan Says:

    Another resignation at DOJ, by someone I don’t know anything about.
    A genuine job offer she couldn’t refuse, or an excuse to get out of the line of fire if Strzok & Page are talking about her in any of their texts?
    No clue, but it’s all part of the John le Carre / Kafka movie we seem to be watching.


    Associate Attorney General Rachel Brand is stepping down from her post as the Justice Department faces intense criticism from President Trump.

    The New York Times first reported Friday that Brand is resigning after nine months on the job. She is expected to take a job as general counsel in the private sector.

    As the No. 3 official at the Justice Department, Brand would be next in line to oversee special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, which Trump has blasted as a “witch hunt.”

  9. blert Says:

    It’s a pretty good bet that the Schiff crew will redact the sources and methods stuff — which can’t be much — and the rest will soon see the light of day.

    I would guess that Schiff WANTS his memo to be suppressed.

    It would play much better that way.

    There is nothing that Schiff & Coy can posit that will reduce the nature of the FBI-DoJ-IRS-CIA axis of corruption.

    They are the New Praetorians — self-anointed to anoint our ‘betters.’

    The CIA is not supposed to be AT ALL involved inside our borders — but Mockingbird proves that they just could not leave America to Americans.

    Manufactured Submission is the proper term.

  10. Ymar Sakar Says:

    They should have moved onto the next conspiracy by now. DC is so slow, as usual.

  11. AesopFan Says:

    blert Says:
    February 10th, 2018 at 7:47 am

    The CIA is not supposed to be AT ALL involved inside our borders — but Mockingbird proves that they just could not leave America to Americans.
    * * *
    The Wikipedia article on Mockingbird states that it is “alleged” but gee it sounds familiar.
    Note that the Usual Suspects were all “liberals” although of the older variety; but if they were willing to run propaganda in the service of anti-Communism, why not their successors in the service of pro-socialism?
    The lack of integrity is still dominant.

    “After 1953, the media network was overseen by CIA Director Allen Dulles, by which time Operation Mockingbird had major influence over 25 newspapers and wire agencies.[5] Its usual modus operandi was to place reports, developed from CIA-provided intelligence, with cooperating or unwitting reporters. Those reports would be repeated or cited by the recipient reporters and would then, in turn, be cited throughout the media wire services. These networks were run by people with well-known liberal, but pro-American-big-business and anti-Soviet views, “

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