August 19th, 2016

Meanwhile, in Turkey…

the purge continues:

Turkey on Friday detained dozens of academics suspected of backing Fethullah Gulen, the alleged mastermind of last month’s failed coup, while pressing ahead with raids on businesses linked to the US-based Muslim preacher.

Turkish prosecutors have issued arrest warrants for 84 academics nationwide, the private Dogan news agency reported, while the state-run Anadolu agency said Istanbul authorities were separately hunting 62 academics from the city’s main university…

A total of 74 scholars had been detained so far in both operations, media said.

A large majority of the suspects in the nationwide raids were from Selcuk University in Konya, central Anatolia — a conservative bastion of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) — including the university’s former rector, Professor Hakki Gokbel.

To the alarm of its Western partners, Turkey has pressed ahead with a vast crackdown on alleged coup plotters in the wake of July 15 military action seeking to oust President Recep Tayyip Erdogan from power.

Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said this week that more than 40,000 state employees had been detained in the purge, with more than 20,000 remanded in custody.

More than 5,000 civil servants have been dismissed and almost 80,000 others suspended, he added.

It just goes on and on and on.

I find that phrase “to the alarm of its Western partners” interesting. Yes, this is all very “alarming,” but it should not be the least bit surprising. And “alarm” is an emotional reaction: so, what are you going to do about it, Western partners?

Zip. Zilch. That’s my prediction, anyway. Remember, also, that Turkey is part of NATO and has been since 1952, before Islamists such as Erdogan gained control of the country.

I’m not sure how a nation gets kicked out of NATO (or whether the NATO nations would even want to do that to Turkey), but there are certainly criteria a nation is supposed to fulfill in order to join. Among them, countries are required to:

…[have] stable democratic systems, pursue the peaceful settlement of territorial and ethnic disputes, have good relations with their neighbors, show commitment to the rule of law and human rights, establish democratic and civilian control of their armed forces, and have a market economy.

Commitment to the rule of law and human rights? I doubt that Turkey was ever big on that score, but what’s been happening since the attempted coup is egregious. And of course, the way that Erdogan became “democratically elected” was also not cricket, although most people (and the MSM) seem to ignore all of that.

This and this describe what most people seem to determined to ignore: Erdogan’s history of power grabs.

14 Responses to “Meanwhile, in Turkey…”

  1. Cornhead Says:

    And a report from private security company Debka that we are removing our nukes from Turkey. Erdogan wanted to control our nukes.

    So what? Iran will have nukes in three years thanks to Obama. Obama and Hillary have been the best friends of radical Islam. Some people say they founded ISIS.

  2. roc scssrs Says:

    The military in Turkey was always a force for modernism and secularism. As I understand it, Erdogan and Fethullah Gulen were partners in “Islamicizing” the military over the years. Erdogan eventually got rid of Gulen and is now eliminating his followers. Pretty scary.

  3. sri Says:

    When this end?
    Turkey, Dormancy, what called the Islamests, US backed opposition group, instability in the country. the country surrounded by wars, bombing here and there by terrorists, once upon a time they got free rid crossing road to go to Syria & Iraq for Jihad, training camp, save haven pass way to Jihad…….

    Now The prisons full of Humman……….

    Let see this and think at New York, the Museum of Modern Art
    The Mapping Journey Project, about migrants traveling ridiculous distances……

  4. sri Says:

    the link /A>The Mapping Journey Project

  5. sri Says:

    the link The Mapping Journey Project

  6. miklos000rosza Says:

    In a terrifying scene in Proust, the lesbian daughter and her lover spit in the face of a framed photograph of the girl’s father, and laugh.

    Erdogan and his wretched minions are spitting in the face of Kemal Ataturk, the father of modern Turkey, over and over again, taking the country back into the dark ages of the late and unlamented Ottoman Empire.

    I wonder how Orhan Pamuk feels about all this? I wonder if he remains in Istanbul?

  7. Nick Says:

    It’s hard not to be cynical, when you can guess that the most horrible things taking place are never going to make the newswires.

  8. J.J. Says:

    It is hard to be optimistic about the future. In the 1950s some of the Muslim countries (Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, and Algeria come to mind) were becoming westernized and the religion was moderating. Radical Islamic writers and activists began their campaign to re-Islamicize the Muslim world in the 1960s. It’s succeeding.

    Although Turkey was never a truly modern country, in 2003 when we invaded Iraq, people pointed to Turkey as a model of what might happen in Iraq after Saddam was deposed. So much for that. Islamism is a retrograde force that has now broken out of the ME. Anyone who doesn’t see this is whistling past the graveyard.

  9. Frog Says:

    It is indeed hard to be hopeful about the future. Totalitarianism is afoot over the entire earth. The USA will be its greatest victim, with one foot already in the grave.

    Flagrant criminality in the highest echelons of our government, in the White House, Departments of Justice, State, Education, EPA and Hillary. These people don’t need no steenking Constitution. Get Kimberly Strassel’s book, “The Intimidation Game.”

    With unmodified Civil Service rules, the Left will proceed unchecked even if Trump wins, harboring as it does in all the interstices of the Federal power structure.

  10. Ymarsakar Says:

    Islamism is a retrograde force that has now broken out of the ME.

    Yet those people did not want to admit that the Left was not progressive. In the Iranian revolution, Leftists loved Khomeini and did everything in their power to give Islam power over the people. IN the end, they got purged and had to flee, to places like the US. Where they brought their Leftist “progress” even further.

    With unmodified Civil Service rules, the Left will proceed unchecked even if Trump wins, harboring as it does in all the interstices of the Federal power structure.

    Which is also why Trum can’t be the Hero Savior of the white nationalists and the Republicans who feel betrayed.

  11. OM Says:

    “Erdogan’s choice over succession mechanisms will shape that future. Even this fact speaks volumes to the one-man regime that Turkey is becoming.”


    Burak Kadercan is an Assistant Professor of Strategy and Policy at the United States Naval War College.


    A long article if you have time.

  12. LindaF Says:

    Don’t like Ergodan, but the Gulen group is NOT scholars, as they have been reported to be. Islamicists using their positions as teachers to run what are essentially indoctrination centers – some of them in this country. Also, the Gulen charters use the schools to import their followers into this country, on the grounds that suitable Americans can’t be found to teach in their schools (ridiculous!).
    Turkish educational credentials are too often inflated, bought, and meaningless.

  13. Ymarsakar Says:

    Someone else linked to Gulen’s background, so people who read that, should know in general that Gulen has connections to money and Islamic teachers.

  14. Fred Says:


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