June 5th, 2017

The London Bridge terrorists are identified. Guess what?

Known wolves, of course.

There is nothing—I repeat, nothing—in the description of these men so far that would surprise anyone who’s been reading the news for the past decade or so. Known to the police? Check. Not considered enough of a threat, despite many warnings and reports of their extreme radicalization? Check.

Either the police are overwhelmed by thousands and thousands of such people, or they are making a conscious effort to ignore the threat (I say there’s probably some of both). I’ve written on the topic before, so there’s no need to go into it again; see this for a lengthy discussion that I posted after the Manchester bombing. I repeat this particular thought:

Why do these hotlines even exist? Is it to reassure people that they are helping authorities to do something about it when in fact nothing is done? In other words, to give a false sense of security?

And what happens to those on such a “watch list”? If Abedi [the Manchester terrorist] was on one, it apparently was one that was all “watch” and no action, because he was allowed to regularly travel back and forth to Libya despite it, and it is suspected he traveled from there to terrorist hot-spot Syria as well.

I wonder—did authorities even compile a file on Abedi linking all these reports, or was each call-in treated as disconnected from the others?

Similarly, there were plenty of call-ins on the supposed ringleader of the London Bridge plot, Khuram Butt (also known as “Abu”), and these warnings seem to have been ignored to an even greater extent than occurred with Abedi [emphasis mine]:

[One of] the [London Bridge] terror suspect[s] was also known by the name Abu Zeitoun, meaning ‘father of olive’ in Arabic.

The former friend [of Abu’s] claimed he contacted police after becoming concerned over comments he made about other attacks.

The friend told the BBC’s Asian network that the terrorist, who was known as Abu or Abs, had been radicalised watching vidoes of the infamous American hate preacher Ahmad Musa Jibril [on YouTube].

He said: “We spoke about a particular attack that happened and like most radicals he had a justification for anything and everything and that day I realised that I needed to contact the authorities.”…

“I phoned the anti-terror hotline. I spoke to the gentleman. I told him about our conversation and why I think he was radicalised.”

But he said he was not arrested and was allowed to keep his passport.

“I did my bit, I know a lot of other people did their bit, but the authorities did not do their bit,” he said.

And this part is exactly parallel to what happened with Abedi, who was banned from Didsbury Mosque for a similar reason:

…it also emerged that [Abu] was thrown out of his local mosque two years ago after clashing with the Imam about politics.

One more thing about Abu—he was featured in an alarming documentary about extreme jihadis living in Britain. If that isn’t a red flag, I don’t know what is.

So far it seems that two of the terrorists were British citizens and one was not, but Butt-“Abu” was actually born in Pakistan. Was he a naturalized citizen? When did he come to Britain? Under what circumstances?

14 Responses to “The London Bridge terrorists are identified. Guess what?”

  1. Julia Says:

    “Either the police are overwhelmed by thousands and thousands of such people, or they are making a conscious effort to ignore the threat (I say there’s probably some of both).”

    Or… their hands are tied as to what they can do in our free, liberal societies? Or, there are no politically correct actions they can take?


    Kinda’ like policing in Chicago. The judges play Catch and Release, and so it’s pointless for them to be too aggressive, AND the political overlords don’t want certain types of criminals arrested.

    PC will be the death of us.

  2. parker Says:

    Bottomline: the problem is Islam. There is no positive outcome until the core problem is acknowledged. When the ‘authorities’ ignore the assistance of moderate muslims and allow known ‘lone wolves’ to roam free there will be the deaths of innocents. And, the term ‘lone wolves’ has to be dropped. These savages are members of a large, multinational threat to Western Civilization. They do not exist in a vacuum.

  3. mollyNH Says:

    I read on Twitchy that one of these mental cases starred in his own Jihadist video flaunting the ISIS flag and was on the Internet readily viewable for the police. Guess the cops figured he was only joking. Pity for the UK and all the rest they welcomed in the instruments of their demise
    .But then again watching Henry viii rehashes they seem to rather have liked decapitation for a few years.

  4. mollyNH Says:

    And that useless EU. didn’t even conger up the nerve to back up Trump’s remarks about getting them out of the mosques, the religion the. country, & the world.
    Too PC plus TRump’s calling their fake
    Paris climate accords useless was too much to tolerate.

  5. mollyNH Says:

    And that useless EU. didn’t even conger up the nerve to back up Trump’s remarks about getting them out of the mosques, the religion the. country, & the world.
    Too PC plus TRump’s calling their fake
    Paris climate accords useless was too much to tolerate.

  6. mollyNH Says:

    Oops twice, sorry

  7. AesopFan Says:

    Someone linked this on another Neo post today.


  8. Frog Says:

    From what I’ve read, London and perhaps other cities in Britain have the most surveillance cameras; they are everywhere. Which means the bobbies are sitting cozily in front of monitors with their cuppas.
    Crimes have been redefined there, also. Some former crimes are crimes no longer. A Brit residence is burgled once every year, on average. The bobbies take the burglary reports by phone and generate reports for insurance purposes, but rarely make a physical on-site appearance.
    These are small parts of a big picture. The UK is going to hell in a handbasket. Its navy of the former British Empire, on which the sun never set, has lost two-thirds of its the fleet, as compared to the fleet at the time of the Falklands war under Thatcher. The US has experienced the same under Clinton and Obama. It is much quicker to tear down than to build. From initial design to launch of a new aircraft carrier is maybe 15 years. Cannot rebuild in 8 years, despite Bush and now Trump. Ain’t gonna happen.
    The US can no longer fight in two separate regional conflicts simultaneously.
    And we have not the gumption to fight Islam. Lost a loved one in an explosion? It’s the new normal, Allah be praised. And Mohamed is his prophet.

  9. John Guilfoyle Says:

    “Bottomline: the problem is Islam.”

    Thanks parker…since 9/11 this ought to be bleeding obvious…but it is here where this truth gets spoken not in the halls of Western governments where policy is formulated. Pity that.

    Until Western democracies are prepared to address the crucial problem that is Islam…I see dead people. Coming to a street or shopping mall or airport near you.

  10. Frog Says:

    The Third man has been identified and also made an appearance on AuthorityScope:
    “Zaghba was stopped at the Bologna airport in March 2016 carrying no money or luggage, the Italian officials said.”
    Kinda reminds me of the 9/11 killers, but not apparently the Italians.

  11. Gringo Says:

    There is a very easy way, if not necessarily legal, way to deal with this. British police have a list of 22,000 potential jihadis they watch, with 3,000 of those listed as dangerous. Either deport, imprison, or kill the 3,000 dangerous ones.

  12. Gringo Says:

    In addition: record sermons at mosques. Deport, imprison or kill those who preach jihadi-loving sermons.

  13. blert Says:

    Eject 100% of the imams.

    Islam is NOT like any other ‘faith.’

    It’s what ever the imams say it is.

  14. Sergey Says:

    blert: Yes, eject. Preferential from airplane at 1000 feet altitude into the ocean.

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